qyron@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Meanwhile, before mass shootings, murder was a lot more common and society was more prone to violence.
Violence has been in a downwards spiral, regardless what is pushed to public forum.
qyron@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Meanwhile, before mass shootings, murder was a lot more common and society was more prone to violence.
Violence has been in a downwards spiral, regardless what is pushed to public forum.
ByteJunk@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not saying you’re wrong, but a source to go with that would be great.
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
Not the same person but here you go
en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Crime_in_the_United_States has a few sources and an easy to consume table. Per its table, rates since 1960 peaked in the 80s at 10.2/100k population; Columbine was in 1999, when the rate was 5.7 per 100k, and until at least 2018, the rate has never exceeded that.
www.macrotrends.net/…/murder-homicide-rate has slightly different data and shows that the murder rates increased past that rate during COVID. However in 2022 the rates dropped - source and were expected to continue dropping at that rate or even faster. www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/…/674290/ confirms that theory - rates for the 90 reporting cities were down 12% as of May of this year.
cRazi_man@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I see the data you’ve linked, but find it fascinating what the parent comment is implying.
OP is asking: “guns have been around for so long, why are mass shootings more common only recently?”
Parent comment’s answer is “total murder rates used to be higher before and the rate is now less than what it used to be before”
Even looking at your homocide data, what does that mean? Why have mass shootings increased?
And the further question that brings to my mind is: are people putting together these 2 pieces of unrelated data, to draw the conclusions that support their own bias? Great that overall murder rates are down compared to the 70s and 80s…but that doesn’t mean the country doesn’t have a gun problem or that mass shootings are unnecessary and avoidable deaths and a sign of some underlying unhealthiness in a community.
Occamsrazer@lemdro.id 8 months ago
Mass shootings weren’t even defined before. We didn’t talk about them because they weren’t tracked. Even now the definition of mass shooting isn’t settled, with some definitions having about a dozen per year, and others having about 2 per day.
Mango@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d like to point how polite I think your wording is. That’s probably the least offensive way to ask for a citation.