The PC has… No official accessories mate
Comment on Xbox's new policy — say goodbye to unofficial accessories from November thanks to error '0x82d60002'
jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Historically, 3rd party accessories on all platforms have been garbage. Glad to see them cracking down. There are rare exceptions like this Atari 2600 joystick:
I have a pair that must be almost 40 years old now, still work!
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“Xboxe’s policy”, we aren’t talking about PC. But yeah, once you get away from the name brands, a large portion of PC controllers are garbage as well.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“all platforms” because apparently you can’t read your own posts.
paultimate14@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Just because you don’t like them doesn’t mean other people don’t.
As a kid I had no hope of affording the official PlayStation racing wheel, but I could afford the MadCatz one. When I wanted a 2nd guitar controller to play with friends on the PS2, NYKO offered a wireless one that was much better than the official ones. My first wireless controller, before the WaveBird, was a MadCatz PS2 controller that was fantastic.
I spent a good chunk of this weekend researching 3rd party JoyCons because the ones from Nintendo are basically cheap novelty toys that sell for $80.
8BitDo have been making quality controllers for several years now, and they have a whole section of their website dedicated to Xbox stuff. They appear to be licensed, so they will probably still be good?
Especially with how expensive 1st party controllers are, it can make a ton of sense to get cheap 3rd party ones. Especially if you aren’t into hardcore or competitive games.
KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 11 months ago
NYXI makes dope joycons. definetely give them a look.
paultimate14@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Haha thanks that’s actually what I went with.
I went with the Wizard because I always thought the GameCube controller was fine. Not my favorite, not terrible. But I’m at least familiar with it. I saw some reviews mention that the QA and build quality might be a problem, and if that’s the case my next option is probably to try the Hyperion Pro.
Honestly I wish I could rip the controls off the Steam Deck or rip a DualSense in half.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I mean, yeah, it’s true historically that first party has been generally better in quality. Going all the way back. But that does not mean it’s cool to block third party accessories.
ABCDE@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Drift on official controllers disagrees.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They aren’t blocking 3rd party accessories. They’e blocking UNLICENSED 3rd party accessories. Different beast.
Grimy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Basically just means anything that is even mildly competitive in terms of price. Any licensed third party gear is the exact same price as the official accessories.
I’m not sure why you are defending moves clearly meant to fuck the consumer.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Because selling consumers cheap trash that they have to replace multiple times is worse for them than charging a higher price for a licensed product.
We’ve been over this across multiple generations. 3rd party controllers, 3rd party memory cards, they all sucked. Cheap? Yes. Very cheap, but if they’re half the price and you have to replace them 3 times, they stop being cheap.
Not that some official products are any better, the Elite controllers continue to be garbage and have spawned class action lawsuits.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 11 months ago
There are lots of great ones and lots of bad ones. As a consumer, you have options.
This is nothing more than another pointless revenue stream for Microsoft that the consumer will ultimately pay for, much like Apple and Lightning.
NateNate60@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Call me old-fashioned, but I think the free market offers an adequate solution for this—customers can tell for themselves which third-party accessories are bad and not buy them. Microsoft shouldn’t purposefully render them unusable. If you want guaranteed support, you’re always free to choose an official product.
BURN@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Except the controllers who are doing external scripting are the best selling 3rd party controllers. So the free market has been pretty clear in that they don’t care if it’s a good product, they only care if it gives them an unfair advantage.
Letting the free market continue to regulate this means no change from the horrific state of controller based cheating that exists right now.
NateNate60@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If PC players and PC games can handle cheating without needing to resort to banning third-party controllers, I see no reason that Microsoft magically needs to do so.
BURN@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They’re just not widely used on pc. They can be, they just haven’t been adopted by cheaters as much on pc vs console.
Microsoft should have banned these controllers years ago tbh. There’s no way for game developers to reliably ban players using them. The problem is that they haven’t been able to handle cheating up to this point.
jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They really can’t though. Which is why the article shows a shitty controller somebody bought on Wish.