you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Apple’s laptops sales are decreasing. And most Mac users can’t tell the differences between Intel, the M chips, AMD or whatever. They just know that there’s a pretty apple on the back of their laptop and that’s why they buy it.
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GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Nobody tell Intel about Apple Silicon! Or that Apple’s sales are increasing while they rest of the industry is in a slump.
long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Apple’s laptops sales are decreasing.
Right now. But that’s because the M1 and M2 Mac sold like hot cakes and we’re at a quiet stop in the product timeline. They pick right back up when the new models drop.
And most Mac users can’t tell the differences between Intel, the M chips, AMD or whatever.
This is silly. The M1 models were leaps and bounds better than the Intel predecessor’s. That’s not all due to the ARM chip, but list a “MacBook Air 2020” for sale and watch the Mac heads stumble over each other to ask “intel or m1”.
They just know that there’s a pretty apple on the back of their laptop and that’s why they buy it.
People generally tend to stick to one ecosystem because of lock in effects, such as investment in apps etc, but that’s equally true in the windows world. I’m not sure I would classify Mac users on the whole as tech illiterate though. Most know exactly what they are getting and why.
And they are also A LOT of Mac users that just want a decent Unix machine and sturdy, capable hardware.
ink@r.nf 8 months ago
But that’s because the M1 and M2 Mac sold like hot cakes and we’re at a quiet stop in the product timeline.
So you agree that it’s mainly Apple stans buy in whenever a new Mac drops, and hasn’t been able to really influence non Apple stans.
That’s what the poster above you said. Apple stans buy in because they’re a cult, so of course their sales will increase once a new mac drops.
The same is true for every other manufacturers during covid as everyone was bound to work from home and needed a laptop, but nobody seems to mention that
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
So you agree that it’s mainly Apple stans buy in whenever a new Mac drops, and hasn’t been able to really influence non Apple stans.
No, I very much do not. M1 laptops have drawn in a lot of new users, simply because of the battery life and performance.
Apple stans buy in because they’re a cult, so of course their sales will increase once a new mac drops.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here. There are a lot of factors that influence purchasing decisions. It’s expensive equipment and people try to decide whether it’s worth spending cash on. Apple users are not made of money.
The same was true for every other manufacturers
Yes. So?
Market share of ARM laptops skyrocketed from 0% to almost 10% overnight regardless. That’s the topic right?
AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Some of those people know that docker performance is hot garbage on Mac’s.
jmanes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Only if you’re not using AARCH64 based containers.
Trippin@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Do you have numbers? Cause I’m thinking at at 8.6% worldwide, it’s not really a big chunk of the pie. Especially as the article states, it’s declining compared to the year before.
GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
The article you linked pretty much sums it up.
Apple’s Mac market share increased to 8.6%, reporting year-over-year shipment growth of 10.3%, the only major manufacturer to do so. The year-over-year Mac shipment growth comes even as the broader market and competitors notch sharp declines in shipments, and as the Intel transition wraps up. Lenovo, HQ, Dell and Acer all had year-over-year drops in shipments, according to IDC data.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Apple’s laptop segments have been decreasing massively since their switch to custom chips, actually. Could just be timing, or could be that people don’t want the hassle.
macrumors.com/…/kuo-macbook-sales-down-amid-no-ne…
nave@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Probably becuase people bought new Mac’s in 2020 and don’t feel like upgrading.
macrumors.com/…/apple-says-strong-mac-sales-led-b…
BB69@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They swapped to M series chips, what, two years ago? This says sales this year are down due to no new Macs.
bamboo@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The M1 series was super good and Apple just hasn’t released anything since then worth upgrading to if you have an M1. They’re gaining market share though slowly, which indicates that their sales slump is lower than the market average.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Their selling points for the previous generation are now moot though, so that’s why people aren’t buying or re-upoing generations:
There’s just tons of stuff that makes it unattractive to developers. My particular job requires building multi-arch containers and binaries, and it’s just a nightmare to dev and test locally. The argument to this point might be “just use cloud”, or “use a remote CI build system”, bit the point is you shouldn’t have to. I can have a machine that does everything I need it to do with another vendor, with way less hassle, and for way cheaper.
bamboo@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I don’t know exactly what software you use for work, but for simple cases docker desktop uses binfmt-misc to enable Rosetta and qemu-user for containers. This actually makes it really easy to build and test for a bunch of different architectures, x86 but also ppc64le, mips, etc. With x86-64 specifically you get Rosetta for very high performance. I know tools like gdb don’t work right in this environment, but thats not usually part of a typical ci/cd system anyways.
ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lol! No.
Gaming: has just jumped up in a huge way in the last couple of months. The software that’s come out recently is amazing. Just run full windows games on your macbook pro? Sure.
Creators: huh? Never heard of this before. Everything seems to run amazingly well.
GPU: except for the local ai stuff that is being done all the time? What? Diffusion Bee doesn’t exist now?
Cheaper: well, yeah. Heh. You get that one, for sure. But if money is no object, then… 🤷
kalleboo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Be careful in trying to interpret year over year statistics. Last year was huge for Apple as if you look at Q3 2022 then Apple increased sales 10% while the rest of the PC market lost 18%.
You’re saying “since switching from x86 to ARM apples sales are down! see it was a bad idea!” but actually they have been way way up and are just finally getting inline with the sales decline the rest of the PC industry has had after the covid work from home rush ended.