Comment on “He Was A F—ing Editor”: Jonathan Frakes, Brent Spiner And Ron Perlman Skewer ‘Star Trek: Nemesis’ Director

UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• haverholm@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It was always weird to me that, after 7 years playing Picard, as soon as they started making movies, Patrick Stewart's instinct was to play him as an action hero 🤦

  All of that beach buggy stunt driving in Nemesis should have gone on the editing floor.

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  • wjrii@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Patrick Stewart was also deeply involved in the creative decisions on Picard seasons 1 and 2. He got to the point where he just wanted to do what he wanted to do, and since he is Jean-Luc Picard, what he wants is ipso facto the right choice:

    “What I’d like to see at the end of the show,” I told them, “is a content Jean-Luc. I want to see Picard perfectly at ease with his situation. Not anxious, not in a frenzy, not depressed. And I think this means that there is a wife in the picture.” You see, the line between Jean-Luc and me has grown ever more blurred. If I have found true love, shouldn’t he?

    Sometimes you do not want your actor actually in charge of their iconic character, and genuine embrace of it can manage to make it worse if they’re not writers. I will do my occasional hornet’s-nest kicking and say that Mark Hamill’s take on Luke Skywalker after filming The Last Jedi was similarly myopic, but in a direction that more fans at least think they wanted, and since we’ll never see his choices play out he still gets the benefit of the doubt.

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    • psycotica0@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Well, I do other stuff, like I’m riding my bike in the park, and this policewoman says, “Oi! You can’t ride your bike on the grass.” And I go, “Oh no?”, and her uniform falls off, and she goes “Aaaah!”, and she’s trying to cover up, but I’ve seen everything anyway, and I get on my bike and ride off. On the grass.

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      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Hahahahaha!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_cwI1Xj4M

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    • Rakonat@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think the big issue there was Kurtzman talked to Stewart long before any deals were signed that set up what they were doing. But Stewart hadn’t played the character in 15 years and then not a proper portrayal of Picard since 94 when the TV series ended.

      Without Kurtz awful retelling of Star Trek, along with it being fairly apparent to me he didn’t want to do Star Trek but something else entirely every time he’s helmed a project but can only get green lit by paramount when he slaps the Star Trek paint on it. And the projects he’s less involved with (like season 3) are the best received.

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  • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It is what Patrick Stewart wanted, which goes to show that sometimes the actor isn’t always right.

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• hopesdead@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If you are unware, Spiner and writer John Logan has since gone on to say this year that Data did not die. Effectively they have retroactively contradicted the events of PIC.

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  • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Huh?

    Okay, it’s been a very long time since I watched that movie, but as I recall, he very clearly died. I know they went on to bring him back to life a hundred different times in PIC, though. Is that what they meant?

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    • hopesdead@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No. They literally have retroactive decided what we saw wasn’t his death when PIC clearly states he died.

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    people would like to forget std and PICARD every existed under kurtzman or the person who follows in his footstep.

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  • Einskjaldi@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s lots of ways to do that.

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