Comment on Toyota to adopt Tesla charger for North American EV models

robocall@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because using proprietary standards puts you at the mercy of the technology owner

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  • Actaeon@artemis.camp ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It was made an open standard about a year ago

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    • thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Didn’t know that, that’s fine then

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• SSUPII@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex…

  There is a placed by law standard in the European Union at least. Image

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  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nah can’t have standards in the USA, let the market solve that and Canada just follows whatever the USA does for these things.

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    • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In this case there is, it’s called the North American Charging Standard.! Granted, Tesla did name it that before it became a standard, but hey, at least it worked out in the end.

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      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It’s not a standard unless it’s made mandatory by the state, it’s just an agreement between manufacturers

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      • vagrantprodigy@lemmy.whynotdrs.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        We had a standard before that, it was called CCS. Musk changing the name of his charger doesn’t make it a defacto standard, no matter what the Muskites tell you.

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• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  because, from what I understnad, only the newest tesla chargers will support non-teslas charging, which is gonna leave a shitton of older chargers as tesla exclusive.

  and overnight renders all the investment and infrastructure thats been built for J1772/CCS Type1/2 completely pointless and wasted effort almost overnight.

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  • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    and overnight renders all the investment and infrastructure thats been built for J1772/CCS Type1/2 completely pointless and wasted effort almost overnight.

    I could be mistaken, but I don’t think it’s that grim. J1772 will still be good for supporting vehicles and locations that don’t support DC charging. Level 2 will continue to be useful for years since the grid doesn’t support Level 3 charging just anywhere.

    And CCS 1/2 will support NACS with relatively simple adapters as I understand it. Existing DC charging stations can simply replace their CCS 1/2 ends with NACS over time when they would be replaced for maintenance anyway, and perhaps provide adapters in the meantime.

    I highly recommend this video from Technology Connections which changed my mind about this.

    (To be fair, as an owner of a PHEV that can’t use DC charging anyway it doesn’t make much difference to me though.)

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