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MamboGator@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• yiliu@informis.land ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yo! That’s me. I downvoted this. It’s a childish and simplistic message, pandering to it’s audience.

  And the question once you’ve agreed “we should kill nazis!” is, who’s a nazi? Are you talking about actual, card-carrying members of the Nazi party–all 30 of them or whatever? Or are you talking about, like, nazis, man! Cuz you could easily be called a nazi for supporting Israel in that conflict: Israel is acting like fascists, and totally committing a genocide! You could also be a nazi for supporting Palestine: they’re antisemitic as fuck, and genocide is literally their party platform! You could be called a nazi for supporting either side of Russia/Ukraine, too. Clearly the Republicans are nazis, amirite? But wait no, ‘Nazi’ stands for ‘National Socialists’ so actually the left-wing dems are real nazis!

  I’ve heard the world ‘nazi’ (and ‘fascist’) so fucking much in the last decade that I’m fucking sick of it, so “kill nazis!” is a meaningless statement, intended to make the reader feel smug and self-righteous, and nothing else. Fucking pandering.

  Also, Tom Morello (gifted tho he is) left a bad taste in my mouth with this bullshit.

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  • MamboGator@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • kautau@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s funny because a few comments ago in their history they said “Israel isn’t trying to genocide them, they’re growing really fast, they’re just trying to contain them” in regards to Palestinians, which is super nazi

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      • yiliu@informis.land ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yup! And I stand by that. Israel has committed many war crimes in Gaza, but by no definition of ‘genocide’ are they committing genocide. They are not killing Palestinians in any systematic way with the intent of killing all of them, nor are they trying to eliminate their language or culture.

        What the Chinese are doing to the Uyghurs could be termed ‘genocide’, as could the attempts to ‘educate’ Native Americans in the US, because they were deliberate attempts to destroy a culture.

        But Israel isn’t doing that. They’re neither killing en masse or teaching Palestinians children Hebrew.

        Are they oppressing the Palestinians? Subjugating? Terrorizing? Very likely! You could easily make the case.

        But commiting genocide? Nope.

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    • Retrograde@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nazis gonna nazi!

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    • yiliu@informis.land ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There you go. I’m not in the circlejerk, so I’m a Nazi. Absolutely par for the course.

      God, Lemmy is stupid. Bunch of fucking children.

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      • Harvey656@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Says the crying Nazi.

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  • ZeroCool@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Username02@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      There are many cases where accused nazi didn’t know that they are in fact a nazi. I aM jUsT exprESsInG My sENsiBle Centrist oPiNioN Shut up dad, you are cheering for the death of millions lives, you’re a fucking nazi.

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  • TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The concept is that you don’t have to politely sit quietly and listen while someone spouts hate. You are empowered and encouraged to make it stop. That doesn’t necessarily involve physical violence but it should remind you that hate can weaponize the rules of polite society and you don’t have help.

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    • yiliu@informis.land ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is true. For example, a musician could wave a banner saying “<insert group you don’t like here> lives don’t matter!”

      Fuck the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei of Germany, circa 1920-45. Fuck the American Nazi Party. Fuck neo-nazis. Fuck Trump, for that matter, though for all his very obvious flaws, he’s not a Nazi. FWIW, I was warning people in 2015 that Trump had all kinds of fascist energy.

      But I mean, if you look up-thread, now I’m a Nazi. That’s the problem. People use ‘Nazi’ the way Nazis used ‘vermin’ or ‘parasite’: the worst word they could think of to slap on their enemies, in order to dismiss everything they say. To dehumanize their opponents.

      Add two and two together, and in this thread people have said my life doesn’t matter. Why? Because I said I didn’t like this stupid patronizing banner. And I worry about the day when people really do that math–the way they did on the Right during the Trump years, and started killing churches full of black people.

      These people think they’re sooo different. They’re just potential fascists with a different flag.

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• MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’d say we just kill them as our of-their-time forefathers have done.

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• Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I downvoted it simply because the website/image won’t load.

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  • Asudox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s not a reason.

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    • Psythik@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nope. Every other post worked just fine.

      Site probably went temporarily down cause it’s working now.

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  • Jumuta@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    most intelligent user behaviour

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