Comment on Meta made its Llama 2 AI model open-source because 'Zuck has balls,' a former top Facebook engineer says

cyd@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The model, weights, and pre-trained data sets are. The training tools are not. You could argue that it’s not “truly FOSS” without the tools to create that data, but technically, the article is correct.

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  • BeefPiano@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The whole point of open-source is to be able to recreate it yourself so you can make changes. This is freeware. Free-as-in-beer, not free-as-in-speech. Hell, with freeware I can use it for commercial purposes, it’s not even as free as that.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In the AI world it’s a bit different. You can do whatever you want with the model and weights data which will net you the functional part of the resulting product. Train, retrain, dissect, segment…etc. They’re just not giving out the source for the actual engine. The people working with such things really only care about the data, and in most cases, would probably convert it to a different engine anyway.

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      • BeefPiano@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can I remake the model only including Creative Commons sourced training material?

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    • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Calling ML models “Open Source” is already confused. Because they are not programs, but rather formats, they don’t come 1:1 with the source.

      You can obtain a model and train it futher. Similliar how you can get JPEG file with permissive licence, edit it and share it. Having the GIMP/Photoshop project from the image was created from is helpful but not nessesary.

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      • dym_sh@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        here’s core difference: the nature of ai-models is generative, but all layers in a .PSD file are inherently static.

        better analogy would be rendering of a fractal — a limited subset of infinite possibilities, but to explore the rest of them you need both rules and data

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• bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s 1 of the 2 lies in the headline. The other appears in quotation marks.

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  • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    On the other hand, this could mean “this software it totally crap, and the users will shoot us down from all sides, and he has the balls to publish it anyway, even if we will get sued into kingdom come.”

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