I think the issue is that it IS both sides doing terrible stuff, but this is not a symmetrical war.
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GeoGio7@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wtf is up with people picking sides over this??? Can we just agree that both sides are absolutely fucking awful and the ones who are gonna suffer are all the innocent people who are just trying to live their lives?
TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Wrench@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Asymmetrical, and Isreal has been doing their damndest to make it inevitable.
Pratai@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
100% THIS. I can’t understand and haven’t from the beginning of this disaster or human embarrassment- why people are choosing sides.
They’re both complete shit.
Gadg8eer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Yeah, ffs, if you want to fight a war, leave both side’s kids out of it.
14 and younger is too early for anyone to die, I swear if that asshole Trump really is the Antichrist (look it up, I’m no Christian but the “Kek and Medjet” meme energy is strong with that theory) and the bible was right (and if so, that these really are the end times), I hope every last person who has willingly killed a child or ordered someone to kill children goes to the 10th circle of hell or whatever passes for it, no matter what god or concept they believe in. Especially Trump (see the Mexican immigrant kids who his illegal “task force” of bigots basically kidnapped and let starve) and Putin, but that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Justice needs to be served for every child, whether they were enslaved on cocoa farms, working in slaughterhouses in the state that changed child labor laws, sent to juvenile detention for crimes they didn’t commit because the judge was getting kick-backs from a corporate prison, or killed in school shootings.
People say we hate child abuse. I strongly suspect what people really hate is the feeling of disgust that enter their heads if they hear “sex” and “kids” in the same sentence, which would be understandable if it was genuine concern (nobody, especially kids, should be subject to sex against their will, and yes, kids cannot consent) but it’s not. If it was, guns would be regulated, school bus routes would be required to never cross railroad tracks, and any leader - corporate or government - responsible for the intentional or negligent death of a child due to actions that used political/managerial authority would be executed.
I am so done with reality. Wake me up on November 12, if we’re still around by then.
havokdj@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Brother I really hate to say it, but nobody is going anywhere when they die.
Also, what is on the 12th?
Gadg8eer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Nothing, but it’s three days after the 7th Anniversary of Trump’s election, hence the anti-Christ thing. I doubt Jesus will rise, but three days is long enough to safely say November 9th meant nothing.
Also, no hard feelings on the “no one’s going anywhere when they die”. I have a slight, possibly deluded hope that the afterlife is a dream you never wake up from, but despite that I’m no Q-Anon style idiot and I don’t have a reason to think anything is special about 2023/11/09, especially if nothing happens.
I’m just saying, this thing in Gaza has awfully strange timing. If things are as deterministic as scientific evidence generally points towards, I would think December would be a more apt time for tempers to flare in that region due to food prices and religious holidays.
agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 11 months ago
Because that would mean ambiguity and people don’t like that. They want simple stories. Good guy here, bad guy there.
Rolder@reddthat.com 11 months ago
It’s a shit situation all around, there are no winners and no good guys in this fight.
gmtom@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We can do both. I think neither side has had the “moral high ground” from the very beginning of this conflict. For well over 100 years it’s been both groups using the atrocity the other group has committed against them to justify their own atrocities in return.
But at the same time when you get to the very core of the issue it’s palestine and the Arab population that were existing there first, and had the land forcibly colonised by the west despite the protests for the Arab league. Then had their minority and very recently migrated population steal their land to unilaterally declare independence.
Both sides are going about this the wrong way, but only one is also fighting for the wrong reasons.
samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Both of them have done war crimes. Now does the fact that the other side does war crimes allow you to do war crimes, as well?
IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Scum like Shapiro already had an agenda to push. For him this isn’t a tragedy, it’s an opportunity.