Comment on Firefox will have a built-in ‘fake reviews detector’ — Amazon is in trouble

reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I actually don’t agree, and the reason is - non tech people. You and me can install plugins but ordinary people don’t do that. So the default experience must be good, offering improvements to the experience over Google Chrome.

  Otherwise all privacy features could also be plugins. Imagine if that was true. Firefox would have no identity and you would have to install plugins and make it your own.

  So some features should be built in. Maybe the ability to get pop-ups about false reviews will actually make users go “wow that is so useful”.

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  • neshura@bookwormstory.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Compromise: Develop it as a Plugin and then install it by default. That way people who don’t want the feature can easily remove it completely. That approach would likely also reduce the number of Firefox forks whose sole purpose is to remove the new features some consider bloat.

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    • redcalcium@lemmy.institute ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s actually what Firefox usually did for these kind of features. They’re usually delayed as system add-ons.

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    • Lepsea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Or make it so that people have a choice to add some of the features when installing the browser. Debloating is not fun

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sometimes it feels like debloating is a hobby to people with little to show for it

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      • ByGourou@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Most people don’t want a 45th prompt when they just want to install firefox to check facebook and their mail

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      • neshura@bookwormstory.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        True, also wouldn’t be too much work. Just some additional dialogues on first start up asking you which plugins you’d like installed

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    • tweeks@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good solution, perhaps two simple options at browser install: Default / Custom. That way you don’t have to uninstall all the stuff at the end.

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      • BaardFigur@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        But how should they handle a version update where a given addon is added. A popup?

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  • Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Now, let’s talk about adblockers… Oh, wait, Google would get upset if FF had an inbuild adblocker…

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    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If Google stopped sponsoring, Mozilla would go down and Google would get slammed with anti-monopoly lawsuits from the EU.

      So Mozilla can do whatever they want and Google won’t stop sending them money. Since that is a lot more profitable in the long run.

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      • Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Mozilla can do whatever they want and Google won’t stop sending them money.

        So… What are they waiting for? Are they going to rely on gorhill for ever?

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    • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Use LibreWolf. It’s Firefox with pre-installed uBlock Origin and pre-configured privacy settings. It also doesn’t have any of the Firefox bloat like Pocket

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      • Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No way I’m giving market share to gecko and, thus, to Mozilla. I just point how how hypocrite they are.

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    • jtk@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Blockers need to be an extension, keeps everyone honest.

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  • mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    …you would have to install plugins and make it your own.

    Reminds me of gnome.

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• RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Agreed. This is well outside the scope of native browser functions. Firefox already has a rich extensions ecosystem. They can just include the extension with the browser by default for all I care, but as a native feature, this makes no sense.

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  • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They do that. Screenshot upload and so on are handled as extensions.

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• Pxtl@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’d say these should be “recommended plug-ins” but imho FF/Moz embarassed themselves on that front with the whole “Pocket” thing.

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• kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I agree and I worry about what options they’ll remove from about:config next to make room for or force the acceptance of new features like they have a habit of doing.

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  • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s LibreWolf. It allows you to disable many things that you can’t disable in normal Firefox. It also has uBlock Origin pre-installed and it’s pre-configured for privacy.

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• csm10495@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  +1. When Edge added a price tracker / financing thing, the same people threw a fit.

  If you were pro that, you should be pro this.

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• netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Just use LibreWolf if you want debloated Firefox

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  • soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Librewolf isn’t just a debloated version of Firefox. It’s built with a completely different goal of being extra locked down for privacy. More so than the defaults of Firefox. Also, it doesn’t even include auto update functionality unless you’re using a package manager.

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    • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s built with a completely different goal of being extra locked down for privacy. More so than the defaults of Firefox.

      That’s good, isn’t it?

      Also, it doesn’t even include auto update functionality

      I completely forgot this was even as thing because I exclusively use Linux and install/update everything with a package manager. You can also use Chocolatey on Windows or Homebrew on macOS. I feel like more people should use package managers, by using them you avoid having to download some random executables from shady websites and your system doesn’t get bloated up by 423942389 update daemons that are constantly running in the background.

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      • soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s good, isn’t it?

        It is, but it’s also not for everyone

        Also, I strongly don’t expect everyday users to use package managers. And personally, I like having notifications in the app whenever it’s time to update so I can take action right there.

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