Agreed. This is well outside the scope of native browser functions. Firefox already has a rich extensions ecosystem. They can just include the extension with the browser by default for all I care, but as a native feature, this makes no sense.
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reddig33@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Can we please stop with the browser bloat? This is something that should be a plug-in, not a kitchen sink feature.
RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 11 months ago
They do that. Screenshot upload and so on are handled as extensions.
Pxtl@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I’d say these should be “recommended plug-ins” but imho FF/Moz embarassed themselves on that front with the whole “Pocket” thing.
kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I agree and I worry about what options they’ll remove from about:config next to make room for or force the acceptance of new features like they have a habit of doing.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
csm10495@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
+1. When Edge added a price tracker / financing thing, the same people threw a fit.
If you were pro that, you should be pro this.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 11 months ago
Librewolf isn’t just a debloated version of Firefox. It’s built with a completely different goal of being extra locked down for privacy. More so than the defaults of Firefox. Also, it doesn’t even include auto update functionality unless you’re using a package manager.
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It’s built with a completely different goal of being extra locked down for privacy. More so than the defaults of Firefox.
That’s good, isn’t it?
Also, it doesn’t even include auto update functionality
I completely forgot this was even as thing because I exclusively use Linux and install/update everything with a package manager. You can also use Chocolatey on Windows or Homebrew on macOS. I feel like more people should use package managers, by using them you avoid having to download some random executables from shady websites and your system doesn’t get bloated up by 423942389 update daemons that are constantly running in the background.
soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 11 months ago
That’s good, isn’t it?
It is, but it’s also not for everyone
Also, I strongly don’t expect everyday users to use package managers. And personally, I like having notifications in the app whenever it’s time to update so I can take action right there.
1984@lemmy.today 11 months ago
I actually don’t agree, and the reason is - non tech people. You and me can install plugins but ordinary people don’t do that. So the default experience must be good, offering improvements to the experience over Google Chrome.
Otherwise all privacy features could also be plugins. Imagine if that was true. Firefox would have no identity and you would have to install plugins and make it your own.
So some features should be built in. Maybe the ability to get pop-ups about false reviews will actually make users go “wow that is so useful”.
neshura@bookwormstory.social 11 months ago
Compromise: Develop it as a Plugin and then install it by default. That way people who don’t want the feature can easily remove it completely. That approach would likely also reduce the number of Firefox forks whose sole purpose is to remove the new features some consider bloat.
redcalcium@lemmy.institute 11 months ago
That’s actually what Firefox usually did for these kind of features. They’re usually delayed as system add-ons.
Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Or make it so that people have a choice to add some of the features when installing the browser. Debloating is not fun
Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Sometimes it feels like debloating is a hobby to people with little to show for it
ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Most people don’t want a 45th prompt when they just want to install firefox to check facebook and their mail
neshura@bookwormstory.social 11 months ago
True, also wouldn’t be too much work. Just some additional dialogues on first start up asking you which plugins you’d like installed
tweeks@feddit.nl 11 months ago
Good solution, perhaps two simple options at browser install: Default / Custom. That way you don’t have to uninstall all the stuff at the end.
BaardFigur@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But how should they handle a version update where a given addon is added. A popup?
Engywuck@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Now, let’s talk about adblockers… Oh, wait, Google would get upset if FF had an inbuild adblocker…
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
If Google stopped sponsoring, Mozilla would go down and Google would get slammed with anti-monopoly lawsuits from the EU.
So Mozilla can do whatever they want and Google won’t stop sending them money. Since that is a lot more profitable in the long run.
Engywuck@lemm.ee 11 months ago
So… What are they waiting for? Are they going to rely on gorhill for ever?
netchami@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Use LibreWolf. It’s Firefox with pre-installed uBlock Origin and pre-configured privacy settings. It also doesn’t have any of the Firefox bloat like Pocket
Engywuck@lemm.ee 11 months ago
No way I’m giving market share to gecko and, thus, to Mozilla. I just point how how hypocrite they are.
jtk@lemmy.sdf.org 10 months ago
Blockers need to be an extension, keeps everyone honest.
mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Reminds me of gnome.