A lot of creators are already beginning to work based off donations (AKA patron and other sites). Thats one model that could work. Kinda like lemmy.world.
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WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I hate ads as much as anyone and have been blocking them for almost as long as ad blockers have existed. I still acknowledge the fact that ads are the primary revenue source for a lot of things on the Internet, and I selectively enable them for content I want to pay for.
How do you think Youtube is supposed to survive without ads or subscriptions? When they puts ads on their site, the unsaid agreement is that you exchange your ad views for their service.
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 8 months ago
bric@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Youtube ads don’t just pay creators though, they also pay for video hosting, discovery, and streaming, which aren’t cheap. A lemmy for video streaming would be great, but there’s a reason it hasn’t really happened yet, you’d need a much larger portion of viewers to pay than what it takes lemmy to run, and you’d need a bigger community of developers to build it, which is why most youtube alternatives are strictly paid products. None of that is criticism of the idea, I think it would be great if we could wrench away some of youtube’s monopoly, but at the same time we need to understand why it’s a challenging concept
davetapley@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A lemmy for video streaming
Ask and you shall receive: joinpeertube.org
There are even companies springing up who will run and host it for you, for a price, of course.
chuckd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
for a price
Coincidentally, the price of advertisements
thorbot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Checked that out, typed in Board Game Reviews, only videos are clickbait videos by sleazebag Jon Del Arroz, Noped out so fast
sweeny@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Those YouTubers have the option to disable ads on their channel if that is truly all the revenue they need, you don’t need to make that decision for them
mesamunefire@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I thought you cant disable ads now?
OrderedChaos@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t have much but my few videos I have no longer have the option to disable ads.
sweeny@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I think they still can but they have less fine control over which ad placements they disable? I’m not totally sure, but that’s what this link seems to imply support.google.com/youtube/answer/6332943?hl=en
WheatleyInc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They had a system in place that put more ads on users depending on how many used an ad blocker. When the users got used to it, YouTube realized they could push it on everyone and make more money. They’d survive as a business even if that wasn’t the case anyway, Google owns them.
marx2k@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Your talking about YouTube as though they’re some fledgling startup
0xD@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Are you even the tiniest bit aware of the economics of an on-demand video platform with 4K 60fps capabilities? Lol.
marx2k@lemmy.world 7 months ago
How much net profit did alphabet bring in pay year?
guacupado@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The problem isn’t ads, it’s how obnoxious they’ve gotten with ads. Full length ads without even a skip button, ads in the beginning, ads in the middle. Have you tried using Google without blockers or news websites? It’s obnoxious how ads are just fucking everywhere. These companies aren’t hurting for money, they’re still making a massive amount of profit. They just want even more profit next year.
sederx@programming.dev 8 months ago
How do you think Youtube is supposed to survive without ads or subscriptions?
i dont care really.
kalkulat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ads are the primary revenue source for a lot of things on the Internet, and I selectively enable them for content I want to pay for.
How many years have we heard the BS about how they’re gathering all this info so they can do ‘targeted advertising’? HAH. 1. Ads suck. 2. Dear advertisers: you are being conned: it doesn’t work. Do you REALLY think anyone is actually WATCHING those advertisements? WHY?
0xD@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Yeah, ads don’t work. That’s why it’s such a large industry where everyone and their mother throws money at it. Lol - get a grip on reality.
Eccitaze@yiffit.net 8 months ago
Advertising is largely a cargo cult, with the “advertising/marketing is the most important thing” mindset being pushed by people with a vested interest in getting you to spend money on advertising. Actual, real businesses buying actual, real advertisements have said they saw basically no difference in revenue before and after buying the ad.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like there’s no point in advertising–small businesses need it to jumpstart their client base, and medium/large businesses use it to make sure their products maintain mindshare so that a customer is more likely to think “I want a Coke” instead of “I want a soda.” But in terms of directly influencing customer purchasing decisions, the biggest influence is old-fashioned word of mouth and direct customer experience, not advertising.
westyvw@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Start charging people who monetized their videos, like any other web host. They can run youtube ads, or pay money. Subsidize the free users.
Rengoku@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Subsidize lmao. Entitled brats do not have the right to say anything.
westyvw@lemm.ee 8 months ago
What are you trying to say? Who is an entitled brat? This comment makes no sense.
Someology@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sine they are scraping massive amounts of data about users from browser and phone apps, I feel like they should be paying me, really. Google profits off of the content we create for them, and then profits off of tracking us both online and offline, and then they have the gall to charge us money for it. They’ve trained their AI products off of every gmail ever written and every Google Voice call every made, every YouTube video ever uploaded, and I absolutely refuse to feel any sympathy for them trying to bleed more money from the public.
atetulo@lemm.ee 8 months ago
and I selectively enable them for content I want to pay for.
🤡
Youtube is already profitable, you’re just making them more profit.
How do you think Youtube is supposed to survive without ads or subscriptions?
Youtube is already profitable. This move is attempt to make more profit.
Profit, by definition, is what’s leftover after all business expenses have been paid.
Professorozone@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, I feel real bad for them. Google made $13.9B last quarter. Perhaps if the greed wasn’t absolutely bottomless I’d be willing to pay a small fee. But wait, aren’t they selling all my private information? I thought that’s how it works. If you don’t pay for a product, you are the product. No?