Comment on Not even the ghost of obsolescence can coerce users onto Windows 11

Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Altomes@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Switching to Linux is a pain, but its a pain once, staying on windows is the pain that keeps on giving

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  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ARE YOU SURE YOU DONT WANT A ONEDRIVE SUBCRIPTION?!?

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    • halva@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oh my god onedrive is actually the stuff of devils

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  • ProcurementCat@feddit.de ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Switching to Linux is a pain, but its a pain once

    Until there’s some weird problem and the only way to solve it is to copy some dudes code from StackExchange and pray that it isn’t actually a harmful script.

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    • sweetchildintime@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s hardly a Linux-specific problem. There are plenty of Windows problems I’ve encountered where running some random dude’s registry update script is the recommended answer. If you are running anything with Admin / Root rights in any OS you had better understand what you’re doing.

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      • fushuan@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Normal people don’t know what the registry is since they never interacted with it, normal people have issues in Linux that makes them interact with code.

        Normal people have admin rights because it’s their machine, and don’t know what they are doing. Giving normal people the expectations of a fraction what us professionals know to do is very unfair.

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      • RememberTheApollo@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s not Linux specific, but it’s Linux dominant.

        I cannot remember the last time I ever had to use some command line option off the internet for windows. Or some regedit.

        But that’s ok. Whatever code for Linux one picks will either: not be for your version or distro. Missing repository. Deprecated. Won’t config. Won’t make. Need complex permissions setup. Necessitate recompiling the kernel or something. Just not work for whatever reason.

        Linux users refuse to admit (or gatekeep) the fact that there’s a huge knowledge gap and learning curve that has to e surmounted to make Linux usable for professionals, yet people are quick to say “just switch to Linux” when even the easiest mainstream builds fall short of windows functionality.

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    • TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Lol fwiw one thing ChatGPT is shockingly great at is Linux troubleshooting for some reason. Google first but if you’re stuck paste in that error code and see what it advises you to do…its been my savior a few times!

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      • Four_lights77@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This makes sense. By now a full 3-4% of all data on the internet is probably Linux help forums so it’s probably highly represented in its dataset lol

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  • Talaraine@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Gaming is much better on Linux thanks to Steam, but having lots of problems with more recent games and their cursed launchers. I try and remember that Gen X had to figure all this stuff out with early versions of Windows and I should resurrect the same determination that got me through back then... but I'd be lying if I said it was easy.

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    • Que@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I totally agree, I just cba. I have too much going on in my life to start from scratch like that again, and windows is just easy now. I hate the whole drm model, but like most people, I’ll live with it unless Linux finally becomes an easy, viable alternative that’s supported to the same degree as windows and feels just as easy to use.

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• Defaced@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It really depends on the games you play. The thing is, you need to be really honest with yourself in regards to what you play and how far you’re willing to go for the ease of use. Most, if not all games that don’t require invasive anti cheat will just work,there are outliers like media foundations cinematics that just don’t work without protonGE, but even that’s not really a problem and getting smaller and smaller with every proton update. Are you comfortable installing the heroic games launcher from a terminal if it’s not available in your software center? If so, then that opens up a whole new library of games to play from Epic and GoG, if not then use a distro that has it preinstalled.

  The Linux community will make you think it’s an easy transition, and for the most part it is, but as someone who moved to Linux full-time and has been running only Linux for about 6 months, there are still hurdles to jump over, it was about 80% click install and play, and the other 20% was troubleshooting and trying different versions of proton. I’m willing to live with those odds if it means complete freedom of my computer and cutting all ties to Windows. If I want to play games that have anti cheat though, I either have to use GeForce now or use my consoles. However, increasing support for crossplay makes this a non-issue in most cases.

  I do hope you make the jump, it’s pretty clear the path Microsoft wants to follow and I don’t want any part of it, neither should anyone else. We’re in sort of a golden age of Linux gaming right now thanks to Valve, and the momentum doesn’t seem to be slowing down thanks to the steam deck.

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  • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t really play any anti-cheat multiplayer but I do play some AAA with DRM like Assassins Creed.

    I’m fully comfortable with linux to the degree that I can start with a TTY and set up my own GUI with a window manager (though I prefer to just install a DE.)

    Proton has been hit or miss with me on my laptop: sometimes the game won’t load, or it’ll load but the graphics will suck, or it’ll run nicely but all the good mods aren’t supported. That’s what I mean by seeing what the state of gaming is in 2 years: at that point Steam Deck and Proton should be pretty mature.

    Outside of that, the Windows streaming apps support 4k but resolution is generally limited in the browser, though I suppose I could use my tv’s streaming apps. I’ve used my work software on my linux laptop so I know that’s a non-issue.

    At this point, I don’t have a push to switch, but I’m not really excited for 11 and I might have to reinstall anyway to upgrade because apparently the Windows 10 install didn’t leave Windows 11 enough free space at the start of the disk or some bullshit. And if I have to reinstall anyway in 2 years, I’ll probably just do linux.

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    • Defaced@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If your laptop is Nvidia unfortunately it can be hit or miss and that’s just the nature of Nvidia on Linux right now. If you have AMD and in some cases Intel, you’re set and there’s minimal to no setup required.

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      • Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yep, I’m aware. Though NVIDIA has been a little more willing to push kernel modules, so it might be closer to parity in 2025.

        Both my laptop and desktop have NVIDIA cards.

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  • flames5123@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My one game that isn’t fully supported (with mods and add ons) is FFXIV. I’m not switching until ACT (DPS parsing with packet capturing as a windows firewall) is supported. All my others mods for FFXIV are supported very easily it seems.

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    • Defaced@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why in the world do you need packet capturing for an MMO…I can understand DPS meters and tracking, but surely there’s an addon that works.

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      • flames5123@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It parses the damage this way. It’s for people who don’t want to use plugins in the game as it doesn’t mess with the game at all. It’s against TOS, but no one cares as long as you don’t talk about it in game. And since a lot of people use this and fewer people use plugins, it’s better supported and will work on launch days most of the time.

        There’s also another plugin that does this too for crafting so you know what you have in what inventories, making it quicker to gather and craft stuff.

        It’s just easier to capture and parse packets than to put a whole plugin in the game. Plugins are getting better but they do take some time after a patch to get updated to be stable.

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• fushuan@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m playing a heavily modded skyrim playthrough, 1 click button with wabbajack. There’s support for it but… Not much. I also play FFXIV, half support again. PoE works fineish and Bg3 works somewhat. League works? Not as straightforward when I last tried it. Modded D2 works somewhat but it needs to be configured. Last Epoch worked iirc but I haven’t checked, and their game needs heavy optimization so I’d hold my horses if what they do can be applied to Linux too. I haven’t tried dark souls but that shit lags on any Windows machine so it’s basically a 1 to 1 port lmao.

  As you see, all of them are -ish experiences. It’s always googling issues, checking compatibility… I just want to game man.

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• ram@bookwormstory.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I can’t switch until Playnite gets an official implementation on Linux

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