Comment on Iran war cuts off helium from Qatar, and shortages will start to bite in a few weeks, threatening chip supply chains that fuel the AI boom

ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No way. Nvidia will buy them back and throw them away so they don’t flood their market, like they did for crypto booms.

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  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or they get destroyed for tax purposes. So much waste.

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    • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Dumpster diving anyone? We should go work at one when they go under and go by our cars on way to dumpster.

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  • Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Let’s say we get access to those. What can a regular person do with them? Can we use it as a daily driver computer? Or are we talking about GPUs on the cheap?

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    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And hard drives! They might be SAS or some stuff though, cards are a bit expensive for SAS drives, ask le and my cheap 3TB drive how we know…

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For the H100 and up? They’re headless, basically compute only, as they don’t have enough ROPs to game.

      I think the A100 technically can game, in the same way you’d use a laptop GPU not hooked up to the display. They’re kinda like giant RTX 3090/ though, so YMMV.

      They’re great at GPU compute apps though, same as any Nvidia card would be.

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    • youcantreadthis@quokk.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Im told some of the ram is salvageable.

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      • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As i understand, its not the same ram we christians use

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• Carl@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’ve read that ai chips can’t be used for anything but ai, but maybe that ram will hit the market and be useful for something.

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  • Ildsaye@hexbear.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There will be a need for mass desoldering shops to transfer the ram ICs off of the datacenter boards and onto consumer ram wafers

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    • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They literally have boards with soldered RAM? Onto consumer RAM wafers? You mean like gold bonding or something? Like the whole wafer is used or are the RAM ICs tiny? I guess I never thought about it.

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      • Ildsaye@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Optimal ram speed is obtained by having the ram ICs soldered directly on the mainboard, as close to the (also soldered) cpu as possible, at the cost of easy upgradability - an easy choice for those who only think of the next quarter.

        So, I mean the ram ICs can have the solder joints attaching them to datacenter boards melted, and the ICs can be resoldered to the standard ram sticks consumers use in their PCs and laptops. This can be done with home equipment, but not efficiently.

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