Comment on Google Search is now using AI to replace headlines

blah3166@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Don’t forget Kagi! (though it isn’t technically comparable to the others since it’s a paid, but without ads one)

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• yourgodlucifer@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  marginalia-search.com

  Open source and has its own index

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  • blah3166@piefed.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Their old version with the ‘random’ option is the best way to find random, small, niche sites.

    https://old-search.marginalia.nu/search?query=browse:random

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• njordomir@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Protip, you can use your hostsfile or your router to block google so you don’t get tempted. If you may have to bypass, you can use some blocking extensions to allow an override after a nag screen chastising yourself for being weak willed. I rarely reach for the goog nowadays because I have a whole workflow I go through before giving in.

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• HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I love Ecosia because I love trees and will keep using them until I can afford kagi or something.

  But one thing that drives me through the wall.. If I search something in my native language, because I want results that are in my native language, google/bing (which ecosia uses) decides to translate reddit posts for me and Ecosia slaps them to the top of the results. Its rather annoying.

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  • XLE@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Mandatory reminder: Ecosia plants zero trees unless you click on ads.

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    • HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hear hear.

      Its the only website in my adblocker whitelist.

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  • kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have the same experience and it drives me to nuts - if I wanted English results, I’d search in English!

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    • HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Its such a weird thing to do. Especially when you click the translated link and it opens a page that is not translated. So if they think they are “helping” people who don’t know the language, how exactly does it help that they translate the title and half a sentence in the search results.

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    • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes, but they probably know that none of us speaks English, so it wants to help us because we are idiots.

      Wait, thinking about that…

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• kazerniel@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sadly Ecosia is not good for more niche topics or foreign languages. After a few months of use, I went back to Google with &udm=14 😕

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  • Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    DuckDuckGo uses a basket of search indexes excluding google - so even if one of them enshittifies they can reallocate that portion to another source.

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• Jiral@lemmy.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ecosia seems to be pushing the aI stuff hard as well, but at least you have to press the obnoxious AI buttons to get it. Still, it refuses to make those buttons optional. Duckduckgo let’s you have clean experience without rubbing AI buttons or AI summaries in your face and so does qwant.

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  • njordomir@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m sure the trees appreciate the AI sicofancy. /s

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• northendtrooper@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Start page is baked in with waterfox.

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• teyrnon@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Startpage is google through a proxy server, and I noticed an article mislabeled the other day as such from there for a link I posted here.

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  • Jiral@lemmy.org ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    … owned by an ad company.

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  • RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    All true, but it generally shows you search results in a reasonable order and including reliable sources. Like a fine-tuner for Google that doesn’t feed them your data. At least not that we know of…

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    • teyrnon@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah but it has really gone downhill since 2021 especially, to the point of being virtually worthless. The only quick answers offered now on the search page are by design ai, all the results are machine written seo, restating the question in every possible way to hit results, then explaining why someone would want to know the answer to that question in exhaustive detail, then a short paragraph with the answer, that you have to wade through the drivel to find, when it used to put it on the search page results.

      They don’t provide streaming links anymore, defective merchandise only returns links to the companies that make those products on forums they moderate (looking at you best buy everything you sell is now defective, never again,) and articles aren’t provided, even with exact information, date, name of article, name of publication, subject matter. They aren’t even trying and will give you completely unrelated information.

      I wouldn’t be mad if I didn’t know it could work better. When it did initially work, I was surprised at how well it returned information. I know it can work better because it did work better.

      We need free to the user search that is geared to work for us, not for advertisers and others that pay them, or the armies of often automated programs to write articles to his search engines despite being garbage information.

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      • RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Lovely. Next you’re going to tell me Proton mail went evil. (Thanks for the explanation though! I’ll have a look at Kagi).

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