Always whatabouting huh?
None of those is led by a documented pedophile
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ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 12 hours agoJust like tge rogue terrorist state Russia needs to be stopped in their attempted annexations and political psyops.
Or China needs to be stopped in their aggressions against Taiwan and ethnic cleansing of Uyghurs and other “undesirable” people.
I feel like there is no winning scenario left in this.
Who are “we” anyway?
toad@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 5 hours ago
Oh wow, yeah if they’re at least undocumented it’s all good.
Just because Trump is basically the worst possible example of a human being there can be, I’m not gonna believe for a second that any other ruling politicians or oligarchs are saints. Just that those others have better control over the media, which Trump wants to achieve as well.
toad@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
China didn’t bomb any school lately. Sounds like you’re looking for excuses for what your side is doing.
Which makes sense given feddit overt support for zionism
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 4 hours ago
And what apparent side would that be, if I may ask?
mrdown@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
All countries who is doing or supporting grave crimes agsinst humanity should be help acvoutsble including your trashy country
Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
You can’t compare China, who hasn’t waged a single war in 50 years, to a genocidal entity like “Israel” that is being constantly aided by the US empire and defended by the western propaganda machine.
And regarding Xinjiang, you may need to look at the facts before throwing terms like “ethnic cleansing.”
Doomsider@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
China is now arguably the fifth largest supplier of arms supplying weapons and ammo to conflict regions. China is well known for its forced cultural assimilation and they have never stopped. Now they are openly committing genocide against Muslims.
I see you cherry picked the years because between the cultural revolution and the subsequent famine China lost well over 50.millions citizens.
We know the facts, the labor camps, the dramatic drop in birth rates, the altering of mosques to look more Chinese. Forced cultural assimilation is a genocidal act when the US did it to the Native Americans. China is no different.
Why did the Chinese lose so many citizens fighting fascist just to adopt capitalism and produce more billionaires than the US this and last year while be and obvious oligarchy. Why did all these innocents need to die just for China to become fascist themselves?
If the US disappeared tomorrow Chiva would happily fill its spot as a the number one human rights abusers with their garbage partners Russia and North Korea.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
Opening in the sense that there’s been over a decade of accusations and still no actual evidence of even a single death, or indeed any physical evidence at all, with the excuse that it’s all going on in secret. So, the opposite of open.
Israel couldn’t hide genocide in Gaza despite having it completely locked down and the tacit support of the media, but apparently China is doing it on an even bigger scale in a place people can freely travel to.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 37 minutes ago
You keep saying that there is no evidence does not make it true. Birth rates plummeted by as much as 60% with China providing IUDs and sterilization.
theguardian.com/…/chinese-uyghur-policy-causes-un…
I am absolutely not saying that what China has done is anything close to Israel and the wholesale slaughter of the Palestinians. Instead it is very similar to the genocide the US did with Puerto Rico.
Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
Capitalism and socialism are not some clear cut systems or categories that can be merely “adopted”. They are modes of production that are dictated by the material and social relations of production in a given space at a given time. For instance, the transition from feudalism to capitalism did not happen neither swiftly, nor neatly nor universally; rather, capitalist bubbles existed at the epitome of monarchical rule and did not expand until the favourable material circumstances emerged — abrupt demographic changes in the 14th century, colonialist ventures by private companies in American continent, and so forth. And even after capitalism became the dominant mode of production, feudalist relations still existed at the peripheries.
A similar perspective should be adopted in China. The existence of markets is not a core aspsct of capitalism; and regarding billionaires, the PRC prosecutes even more of them, in addition to the tens of thousands of millionaires who emigrate every year.
This is exactly what socialism looks like, a transitional stage that will bring forth a post-capitalist society once the international contradictions (Chinese millionaires) aas well as external (US imperialist encroachment) are extinguished. Some policies may succeed, while others may fail and become lessons for future policymaking. But to call this anything close to fascism is treason to the working classes of the Global South.
Just ask yourself a simple yet important question: what does the PRC stand ro benefit from indiscriminately prosecuting its own citizens and making them suffer aimlessly?
You can travel right now to Xinjiang and visit all of its towns and cities freely with total access and ease (as many tourists do yearly), and you would see people openly speaking Uyghur, rituals and local events practiced publicly, and mosques operating normally. If you’re adamant on believing what some white journalist from NYT or WSJ has to say instead of the locals and residents as well as tourists and independent, on-ground reporters, then this conversation should stop right here.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 8 hours ago
toad@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
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The zionist instance lmao. Be careful mate the polizei might come to your house if you don’t support the genocide enough, you dirty antisemite
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 6 hours ago
Oof you drank the db0 kool-aid. My condolences.
Btw. Israel is comitting a genocide in Gaza. Now by your logic, surely my comment must be deleted, right? But if you are honest, you don’t give a shit about people in Gaza.
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 4 hours ago
Why would you attack me by implying I have alterior motives when I simply replied to the top comment? It doesn’t mention an “imperialist machine”, it states that there will be a world war against the US & Israel.
I simply stated that I can see no “good” allied forces against the “bad” axis in this conflict as in WW2 (let’s just say that, for all its own problems, the lines were more clearly defined back then). Everyone’s kinda the baddies now.
Regarding your sources: Wow, someone has certainly been busy. I simply haven’t had the time to read it all, but if you consider a paid journalist on a curated trip to the region and a professionally produced video series with apparent residents as credible sources, I am not convinced. It’s no secret that Bejing has a heavy grip on the media and censors basically all critical outlets. I do not expect any official account of anything bad ever happening there.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Invading Tibet was an act of war.
Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
The concept of an independent Tibet never existed before the Beitish imperialists in India plotted to expand their s phere of influence into China. See for instamce the Lhasa Convention.
Furthermore:
Source.