Until you have to help someone install an app not available to them.
Xfinity stream for example is not on the Chromecast play store, even though an Android build exists on the Fire TV store. I had to guide my dad through this. In this case it wouldn’t be possible for 24 hours.
Had a similar issue with an app not available in a friend’s region.
I could live with the whole flow minus the delay. This is shit, just pure shit.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 11 hours ago
“Not quire as bad”? My dude, you have to ask for permission from a corporation to installa an app on your phone that you supposedly own and paid for. On what planet is this not awful?
Nester@feddit.uk 3 hours ago
Yep, it’s pretty bad, it sets a bad precedent, and has me looking for alternatives.
When it was originally announced I got the impression that Google would soon be removing the ability to sideload apps altogether and as I almost entirely use apps installed from “untrusted” sources this would have been a nightmare for me.
So while I think this whole situation is shit, and will almost certainly lead to Google removing the ability to sideload apps in the future, for me the immediate anxiety has been lifted.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 hours ago
You do realize that what you’re saying might’ve been the goal all along? It’s literally a “I’m altering the deal, pray I don’t alter it further” vader moment and you’re saying you’re relieved. Make no mistake, you, me and avery single Android user was just fucked over and it’ll only get worse.
Nester@feddit.uk 2 hours ago
I don’t think I made myself clear; I am relievd because I thought I was going to lose access to my apps in the next update cycle. The thought of that filled me with anxiety, but now I have more time to prepare.
I’m hoping that something like lineageOS will be unaffected and will be available for my device before Google remove sideloading altogether
Humanius@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
And that is the tactic commonly used to slowly boil the frog.
DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 5 hours ago
This is happening to PCs now too, eg. with the OS ‘age-gating’ laws that IMO only exist to quell competition for MS, Google, and Apple.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 hours ago
I sincerely doubt that will actually come into fruition. There’s no way to force all linux distros to have that. At least I hope there isn’t.
DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 2 hours ago
Systemd is pushing age-gating at the init level, which means 99% of all distros will be age-gated.
Also, Amutable wants to add Android-style attestation to systemd, which means if they get their way, the majority of Linux will be as locked down as Android as far as telling you what and what not to install for apps.
Here’s the Lemmy post discussing Amutable.
007ace@lemmy.ca 11 hours ago
It looks like a glorified ‘developer mode’ switch that has the 1 day wait to prevent someone from grabbing your phone, turning on sideloading, installing some hazardous app, and then having their way with your info. This appears to be the best of both worlds.
Like when unlocking your bootloader wiped your info. Just do it first. not a year in to using your device, if thats your plan.
potustheplant@feddit.nl 3 hours ago
When has your imaginary scenario ever been a problem? Can you name a single example where that has happenned? Stop making excuses for corporations fucking over their users.
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
If they’re already into your phone there’s so many legitimate ways to extract your data. The ability to sideload an app won’t impact that.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Technically installing an app allows continuous spying instead of one-time offloading. It’s an actual consideration with spyware like Pegasus: it might’ve been used as a bug to listen to offline conversations.
CEbbinghaus@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Sure. Because as we know people grabbing your unlocked phone to sideload apps onto it is an almost daily occurrence. Which of us hasn’t had a stranger install a cryto miner while we looked away for a second.
Get real. This is an imaginary problem affecting the 0.01% they are using to tell you this action is justifiable. Getting more control is the aim of their game
Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Lmfao. I’ll invent a better way and it will only take me negative 50 years.
Passcode.
There is absolutely nothing positive about this. It is only nefarious, full stop. I could open a million dollar restaurant that served microwaved cat shit, but on the menu it’s called “Tbone Steak” and with your logic, people wouldn’t notice the difference.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Okay, pump the breaks a second.
I agree a day wait is bullshit, but you think a passcode is enough to keep someone from… anything? You can shoulder surf a passcode in no time at all. Hell, it’s not even difficult. Go to a bar, talk someone up, give a legit reason to use someone’s phone, intentionally lock and force a passcode and 99% of people at bars will put their pin in within eyesight, or tell you the code.
A passcode isn’t as big a deterrent as most people seem to think it is. It’ll keep you out of an unattended phone you found, but there are plenty of ways to socially engineer your way into having it for the vast majority of targets.
And yes, you likely wouldn’t give your passcode out. But this is how a number of ne’er-do-wells got unfettered access to hundreds of iPhones, and prompted Apple to put a semi similar 24 hour lock on certain security actions if you aren’t in a “known to the phone” location (somewhere you frequent like home or work).
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
Oh yeah, because those guys seriously can’t wait a day
This has nothing to do with security
Zorque@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
So this feature is disabled if you have a pin?