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• ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  By repeating their talking points, you are arguing that we should slow EV adoption. You are literally doing their work for them. At least if you worked for BP you could cash a pay check, you’re out here working for them for free.

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  • THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You could also be like James May, who daily drives an EV and has a hydrogen car. And also states that the charging takes too long and it’s not convenient for, say, younger people who cannot afford a house. So anyone under 40 these days.

    I’d absolutely get an EV for a daily. But not at the apartment I live at. I literally cannot charge it at home and you’d be wrong if you think I’d go out of my way to have to plan to charge it for longer than it takes to just put gas in an internal combustion car.

    You can be critical of something that you want to succeed. I’m probably most critical of things I enjoy, because I know a lot of them can be better.

    EV adoption should be increasing, especially for normal daily driver cars. It’ll let the weekend cars live longer as well. Win win.

    This is only fresh in my mind because James put out a video, quite literally yesterday, explaining what he does and does not like about his Model 3.

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    • ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’ll notice I did not argue against that point at all, not having charging at home is a huge downside and would play a big part in if someone should buy an EV or not.

      “OuR gRiD cAN’T taKE iT” on the other hand is not a valid argument

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      • THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, agreed. That grid nonsense is something you see parroted by people who would never, ever drive an EV in the first place.

        In the words of Gene Wilder, “You’ve got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know… morons.”

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      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What would happen if multiple people plugged in toasters every morning at breakfast time? ANARCHY.

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  • Solventbubbles@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My dude is that what I said?

    I am very anti-big oil. I also acknowledge the fact that big oil has fucked us.

    I think if we can break away from their stranglehold on the industry, we can expand our grid and make EV happen. We also have a very large country with nothing in the middle. There are states without any electric chargers installed. It’s a very big hurdle.

    I never said we should slow EV adoption. If anything, I think they need to give everybody an electric car for free and make solar panels standard everywhere. But that’s not going to happen because of capitalism.

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    • ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There are states without any electric chargers installed

      So now you’re just lying.

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    • entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Name one state with no EV chargers.

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      • Solventbubbles@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Fuck y’all are so fucking pedantic.

        Okay, maybe every fucking state has a charger. But some places have not expanded, especially to rural areas.

        Jesus fucking Christ. Y’all can’t read extrapolation.

        Never comment on anything on the internet. Fucking assholes like y’all chase down every goddamn word.

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• theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is a pretend problem. When have EVs ever caused rolling brown outs?

  Grid can’t handle the current of all the cars charging at once? Charge them slower. Get a battery bank for your home to smooth out the demand curve. Throw banks of supercaps at fast charging stations. Fix the fucking grid as you go. Use battery banks on the grid to even out demand at any level. Hell, you can use the cars themselves as battery banks and bring back rooftop solar tax breaks

  It’s a fake problem, our grid and production do genuinely need work, but in practice EV adoption hasn’t been a limiting factor at all

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  • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Get a battery bank for your home to smooth out the demand curve.

    I’d advise anyone considering buying a battery bank to look at this one simple metric:

    Take the price of the battery bank, divide it by the total number of kWh that the battery bank will source to your electric devices over the battery bank’s lifetime. That should give you a figure of $ per kWh that you can compare with what you currently pay for electricity.

    Anytime I have run that exercise, the battery bank is costing me near or more per kWh than I pay for electricity from the grid, even if I am charging the battery for free (which is never the case, even with solar there’s a cost of installation and maintenance.)

    If you want the battery bank for grid independence, it’ll do that, but know there’s a cost.

    If you live in some crazy demand variable tariff area where you pay $0.20 more per kWh during peak than you do in off hours, the battery may make financial sense for you there, particularly if you can sell power back to the grid at peak tariff rates during peak hours.

    Most people: batteries are a waste of effort that don’t save you money, plus they have the added thrill of being a non-zero risk source of a signifianct fire.

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  • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Charge during non-peak hours. Demand on the grid fluctuates over the day, use it when it’s not in use.

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    • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A lot of the US has flat electricity tariff rates 24-7.

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• themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yes, you are. The grid is in no way blocking you. You are repeating propaganda.

  As the other guy/girl said, only if everyone switched from one day to the other, you’d have a temporary problem.

  How many data centers do you think you need to power a car?

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• FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Stop repeating big oil talking points

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