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Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The whole “sex object” complaint never made sense to me tbh. Like I’ve always wanted “sex object” to be a part of my identity. It’s great for non-sexual stuff to be appreciated, but I’d want my partner to just be horny for me at least for a portion of the time.
I don’t know if it’s puritanical or what, but I think some people misunderstand sexual objectification to be a rejection of all sexual displays entirely. Like as an idiom, even.
On the idiom point, it’s entirely possible to objectify people in other ways, but I never really see anyone talk about them.
Some common ones: worker, consumer, commuter, fan, voter, reader, viewer, subscriber…
On your edit… yes, and the problem there is that should be considered coercive for all work. We shouldn’t work for money. We should work because the work has value to the population. A lot of work is the opposite, and yet people do it because they have to pay the bills. Working in scam call centers is an extreme example. There are people who go to sex clubs and such where they have sex with semi strangers and what not. There would probably be a lot more if it wasn’t considered taboo. So the “industry” as it is would not go away, it would change if paying the bills wasn’t the driver.
Being treated only as a font of knowledge, a hard worker, a reliable friend (when the friendship is otherwise not rewarding), having a lot of tools, etc, is kind of crappy. I at least get pleasure from sex. Honestly, if I had my druthers of how folks reduce me, I wouldn’t hate being valued for being good in bed.
I wonder if the friend with the truck ever feels like that.
Hm, they could. I don’t think that objectification is truly always a bad thing. It obviously sucks when people use you, but being ‘the friend with …’ can also be an excuse to see people more often. Kind of like how the social function of a lot of holidays is just to bring distant people together again.
Sexual objectification is of particular importance because it has ties to the cultural perception of women, rape culture, etc., but it’s also fine to just think your wife who you admire for her strong perserverance and creativity also has titties that are fire.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the problem is more about people other than your partner thinking like that.
The whole “sex object” complaint never made sense to me tbh.
The key word here is object. When people complain about sexual objectification, most often they are complaining about people being treated as if they were sexual objects devoid of agency. There is nothing wrong with sex.
I just never saw it that way. Like there’s object as in inanimate thing, or there’s object as in object of the sentence, which is just the entity that isn’t doing the verb in the sentence, but that doesn’t imply they can’t be the subject of another sentence or that removing their agency is ok. There’s a difference between desiring someone and not caring what they desire.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s a problem when it’s all that your partner cares about. Sex is great, but the vast majority of the time you spend with your SO will not involve fucking. That other 90% is important too.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
God I wish I could find a relationship that was 10% sex. I would actually try dating again.
MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I choose to read this as if you meant “only 10% sex” - because it amuses me, not because I think 10% is insufficient.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
That would be a much better problem to have.