Comment on Why conservative men repeatedly crash Grindr

• bellly@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Making fun of them based on the appearance of their wives/the women in this picture

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  Look, I dont like them. I am not defending them. But reducing them to their looks just because theyre pieces of shit and implying they’re turning men gay. I think it’s shitty, because it doesnt hurt only them.

  Do make fun of them. Make fun of their garbage opinions, make fun of their terrible choices (like those awful pearl necklaces lol)

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  • Apytele@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Loving the diagram. Keep up the good educational work.

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    • bellly@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thanks lol :D I dont usually like risking getting into an argument, but ive unfortunately seen this sort of rhetoric too often :(

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  • zeejoo@thelemmy.club ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So is a woman insulting a man by saying he’s ugly also sexist? I’m struggling to see how it’s misogyny, honestly. Like I’m not trying to fight or anything, I just don’t get how insulting physical appearance can be misogynistic when men can be ugly too. It doesn’t seem to be attacking them because they’re women, but because their appearance seems to reflect their souls. Ugly. What am I missing?

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    • bellly@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fracture has already made some very good points.

      But yes, it can be sexist. If the woman’s insults specifically target his worth as a man.

      The meme is attacking their appearance, and only their appearance, because they are women. I dont really believe in this “looks reflect the soul” stuff. Some people are the absolute sweetest, yet dont meet societal beauty standards. Some people are shit, yet are considered attractive.

      I dont know if you’ve read some comments in this thread, but there’s multiple calling them men. Since they aren’t beautiful, they have their womanhood stripped away from them.

      They aren’t beautiful, so they aren’t women. Because to be a woman is to be beautiful.

      I dont know how much more obvious beauty being tied to a woman’s worth as a woman can get.

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      • zeejoo@thelemmy.club ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But they’re ugly because of specific choices they made to wear what ends up looking like a fascist clown costume. They chose this look. They’re not being made fun of for things outside their control.

        The vitriol and anger that led to those aesthetic choices also led to unhappy marriages. That’s the joke as I saw it.

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    • fracture@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      yea if it’s implying that men are only worth being with because of their looks, it’s sexist, yea. it’s not as sexist because there’s not a societally ingrained idea that a man’s core worth is in his looks. so it’s not like it’s equivalent. but it’s almost like there are different prejudices to different genders

      or have you not heard enough people talk about women like they’re worthless because of a perceived lack of attractiveness

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      • zeejoo@thelemmy.club ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I asked a genuine question politely, you can drop the snark.

        I agree that if the implication that their husbands would sleep around with other men exclusively because their wives are ugly, then it’d be misogynistic. But that’s not the implication of the meme, at least not as I saw it.

        These women chose to wear a specific type of outfit, a specific type of makeup, dye their hair a specific way, and get specific cosmetic surgeries to fit into the toxic world they live in. They choose to look like this. It’s a uniform. Nobody is making fun of their bone structure, bodies, etc. They’re making fun of choices they made aesthetically that comedically also reflect the toxic and ugly nature of their politics. The character flaws that led to those choices also led many of them to have shallow marriages of convenience. That is what I saw as the joke of the meme.

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• bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But are you?

  Who’s the butt of the joke here?

  “Conservative women are so ugly their husbands cheat on them with guys” - that’s the joke. That’s the whole joke.

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  • zeejoo@thelemmy.club ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The whole conservative movement is the butt of the joke. They’re all in shallow marriages, wear hideous fake costumes, and hate each other. The whole thing is ugly and shallow. The men wear the same clown costume and it’s just as ugly. Spray tans and hair gel anyone?

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• opokolo@futurology.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Like, how it’s not racist to make fun of MAGA immigrants voting for Trump and then being deported.

  Do you want to get banned from Blahaj instances? This is how you get instance banned from there.

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    That all looks pretty bannable shitty behavior to me.

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• TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m making fun of them because they look like the baddies from Terrahawks.

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