Comment on Asus Co-CEO: MacBook Neo Is a 'Shock' to the PC Industry

• FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Fair enough. Although Asus sells at least one laptop with 8 GB of soldered RAM, too.

  Granted, it’s “only” a Chromebook, but still.

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  • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Fair enough. Although Asus sells at least one laptop with 8 GB of soldered RAM, too.

    Granted, it’s “only” a Chromebook, but still.

    Chromebooks with low RAM are fine for many use cases. I’ve got a chromebook with only 4GB of RAM and its perfectly fine for web browsing or watching streaming which is the only things I use it for.

    Soldered RAM is almost always a bad thing, no matter the size. Maybe when it’s the most the mainboard can support it’s not too bad but even then you’re out of luck if it ends up dying.

    I used to think that too, but then I realized that the way I use computers (and it sounds like you do too) is to keep a unit a long time, take care of it, and use it to its limits (and perhaps beyond). There are millions of users that don’t do what we do. They may be young kids that end up breaking the unit before 2 years pass. They may be a fashionista that has to change out their unit when the new fall color comes out (so they may not even own it a year). They may be an older person that only uses it to check facebook to keep up with their kids.

    In all of these cases soldered RAM is just fine because the user will never reach the point they need to upgrade it. What they get in return for this is cost savings and likely a smaller (thinner?) unit, that is probably a bit more structurally sound (because it doesn’t have to have a door or clips to have the RAM sockets accessible.

    For users like you and me, soldered RAM is a bad thing. For most common users they don’t care. They don’t even know what soldered RAM is.

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    • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      For most common users they don’t care. They don’t even know what soldered RAM is.

      They should, because when it’s time to sell the laptop one with soldered RAM is gonna be worth a lot less (at least to me).

      Chromebooks with low RAM are fine for many use cases. I’ve got a chromebook with only 4GB of RAM and its perfectly fine for web browsing or watching streaming which is the only things I use it for.

      Fair, but there’s still the potential of it becoming a paperweight if the RAM chips give out or Google forces AI shit into ChromeOS.

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      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        For most common users they don’t care. They don’t even know what soldered RAM is.

        They should, because when it’s time to sell the laptop one with soldered RAM is gonna be worth a lot less (at least to me).

        There’s an irony that the most valuable laptops for resale right now are the ones with soldered RAM. Why? Because the socketed units have their RAM stripped for resale separately from the unit. Even corporate fleets are doing this now and the bulk resale laptops are arriving without SSDs and RAM. Which units still have both? Units where both are soldered and not removable.

        Chromebooks with low RAM are fine for many use cases. I’ve got a chromebook with only 4GB of RAM and its perfectly fine for web browsing or watching streaming which is the only things I use it for.

        Fair, but there’s still the potential of it becoming a paperweight if the RAM chips give out or Google forces AI shit into ChromeOS.

        These sell for $149 USD brand new. A general user would not spend a second of time troubleshooting a failed one. They’d just buy whatever the current model is for $149 which would probably be 4x as fast and with more storage anyway, then pitch the old one in ewaste.

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