More than a century ago we decided that that kind of monopolistic behaviour is bad for the economy and society in general, so we made laws to ban it. You're welcome to lobby your politicians to dismantle anti-trust laws. You just won't get much support. Monopolies are quite terrible.
Comment on Apple is ordered to face Apple Pay antitrust lawsuit
RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 11 months agoWhy not block? Apple makes the hardware and the os. They should have control over the things they make.
JasSmith@kbin.social 11 months ago
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And you might have an argument if there weren’t a couple dozen different phone manufacturers.
Nobody is forced to buy an iPhone and participate in the Apple ecosystem. They’re far from the only option.
Desistance@lemmy.world 11 months ago
There are many Android phone manufacturers. But only one iPhone manufacturer. It would be no different if Microsoft started blocking other software competitors in Windows.
kirklennon@kbin.social 11 months ago
You can also just use the physical card; there are plenty of choices. Consumers want to use Apple Pay specifically though because Apple created a really compelling experience for the end user.
It's also worth pointing out that with Apple Pay, banks are forced to compete against each other for every transaction. Every card is treated exactly the same as every other card from every other bank, and they all get the same (best) user experience. Banks would prefer if their app were the default for NFC, making it more difficult to mix your use of cards from different banks.
Locking down NFC for payments is in many ways, paradoxically, pro-competition.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Windows largely does actually have a monopoly though. They make up 70% of the desktop OS market. Apple makes up less than 30% of the smartphone OS market share with Android making up over 70% across those dozens of Android OEMs.
Again, nobody is forcing anyone to buy an iPhone. There’s a plethora of competition for phones and Apple is a minority player in the market. Real hard to have an anti trust/monopoly case against a player that doesn’t even hold a majority market share.
JasSmith@kbin.social 11 months ago
The existence of other options isn’t sufficient defence against anti-trust suits. There are other options to Windows, but Microsoft has been the target of multiple anti-trust suits over the years.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Windows had a grater than 95% market share during their biggest anti trust suit.
That’s a legitimate monopoly.
Apple is nowhere near a monopoly. There’s a plethora of competition.
c10l@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m sorry, no. I say this as someone who has been full on in the Apple ecosystem for decades. Other than my Linux gaming computer and my Garmin watch, pretty much all my personal devices are made by Apple.
I paid money for that RFID device in my iPhone. I should own it, not Apple. In the same vein, I paid money to have iOS running on the hardware I’m supposed to own. I should be able to decide what I want to run on it.
Unfortunately, at the moment I personally find all the alternatives much worse, so I begrudgingly accept those limitations. That doesn’t mean I like them, it doesn’t make them right, and it certainly doesn’t excuse Apple’s anti-consumer behaviour on those particular matters.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Look up anti competitive behavior and previous antitrust lawsuits to see how bad that becomes.
emax_gomax@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And I own the phone and I should be able to do what I want with it. Why does the company providing a product get more rights to that product than the individually physically owning it. Bs like that, like not supporting proper sideloading, is why I moved away from apple.
AA5B@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Then you made the right choice for you.
Apple decided to implement in their OS one wallet for payments, one consistent set of user experience with security and privacy, open to pretty much any payment card. If you want something else, use something else.
emax_gomax@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They didn’t decide one wallet for payments, they decided to prevent anyone else from implementing something that could compete with their own offerrings. This is like Microsoft forcing you to install Windows on mac hardware and you praising them for removing the choice to have alternatives.
andthenthreemore@startrek.website 11 months ago
That argument only works if they let you use the phone for free. Otherwise by taking your money for it they’re giving you the right to do what you want with it.
painfulasterisk@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Imagine picking a gas station based on your car model…
RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m going to introduce you to Tesla.
corey389@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Well Tesla is starting to open up the charging stations, plus just about every EV manufacturer is moving over to the NACS plug standard in 2025, NACS is the Tesla plug standard.
blarblarjosh@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How is that the same? Tesla doesn’t force you to use their superchargers you can charge anywhere really: charge point, evgo or any of the other options. More of the reverse is true where you can’t use superchargers in other manufacturers, but like the other user commented they are opening that up soon albeit not all stations just a portion.