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Comment on Steam :: About the New York Attorney General lawsuit against Valve

PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Secondary argument: if you buy a game, you shouldn’t have to gamble to get the game’s content.

This one doesn’t apply to Valve’s games, both because the base games are free and because the items can be bought directly. Other games though…

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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yeah, true. Both of those were arguments more against lootboxes in general than specifically how valve has done it, I suppose. Valve’s implementation is certainly a lot less predatory than EA or any mobile game lol

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khornechips@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Bought from valve directly? Because I don’t think saying you can buy the skin from the Steam marketplace for $1,000 is the slam dunk argument you think it is.

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- PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  Bought from valve directly? Because I don’t think saying you can buy the skin from the Steam marketplace for $1,000 is the slam dunk argument you think it is.
  
  Technically, yes, bought from them directly, but I’m not sure how that distinction matters one way or another.
  
  Either way, you either spend about $1000 on lootboxes, gambling to get it, or you buy it from another player for about that much. Given that the value is player set, the price will be in the same ballpark either way. You can argue that the price is absurd and abusive, but thats an argument against high prices on worthless digital items, not one against lootboxes.
  
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  - Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yes, there’s a huge difference between selling something with transparent pricing versus offering it as a gambling prize.
    
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    PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    
    Yes, there’s a huge difference between selling something with transparent pricing versus offering it as a gambling prize.
    
    The issue is not the price, it’s the addictive gambling mechanic. It’s not about making sure steam doesn’t rip people off, it’s about making sure steam doesn’t get kids addicted to gambling.
    
    Yes, exactly my point. Whether you paid previously, and whether its available without gambling has no impact on the definition of gambling is or if it is bad.
    
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