I get a lot of value from YouTube that I would happily pay for, and I already pay for online services that respect me but I wouldn’t pay a company that treats users like they do. It’s not the ads I have a problem with, it’s the tracking of users. They could have ads on their website that don’t track users. You can subscribe to premium and presumably they don’t show you ads, but they still track you. If they didn’t do that I would happily pay them,
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Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 hours agoOr to come to terms with needing to pay for the services you use. YouTube has a paid option that supports the platform and creators much more.
Of course, I also upload my videos to PeerTube. Seems like the best alternative I’ve seen thus far.
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
That used to be a fair deal. We know better now and even have a word for what will happen to us once we’re locked into the system, enshittification. Just about every subscription model eventually leads to squeezing as much as they can out of us without a corresponding increase in value.
Joelk111@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
I agree in general, but when it comes to YouTube and the creator economy I do partially disagree.
You aren’t locked into anything, you can just go somewhere else. It isn’t like Netflix and the other million subscription services where they hold all of the power, that’s the beauty of independant online video creation; the creators have the power, not YouTube. If YT becomes enshittified enough, creators will leave to somewhere else. As it is, I currently watch some videos on PeerTube, some on YouTube, some on Nebula, some on other platforms. People do struggle with using multiple websites across the internet, preferring to stick to a core few websites, but for their favorite creators I believe they’d branch out.
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
I guess there are some examples of that happening with places like patreon, floatplane, twitch, kick, etc. It’s hard to fathom anything coming along that can even approach the reach of youtube without backing from another big tech company and eventually following the same enshittification pattern.
Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
It really is hard to fathom, but I think it has a high likely hood of happening some day. I also think it’s why YouTube hasn’t been enshittified more than it has been, they know that it’s a possibility.
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 1 hour ago
I’d consider paying if Google wasn’t just an evil company and if paid vanilla YouTube was better than the third party frontends and apps. As it stands, you can get more/better features for free.
I want value for money if I’m going to pay, and right now paying for YouTube would not improve my experience with it in any way. I’d be paying ~£156 per year for nothing to change.