I don’t want either. And it’s a slippery slope to the next stage, and the next. Eventually we will have no control over what we own and zero privacy.
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RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Lmao does the register really cite Reddit as a source, it was a cesspool off missinformation on the CA bill, I doubt it’s any better on the CO one.
Why not link to the actual bill like it does for other states?
It’s also wildly disingenuous to lump the bills that require verification and those that just require an OS store an unverified age and return it, but that’s what I’d expect from reddit.
massacre@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
A local API is slippery nipples to a survailance state who knew.
Why use a computer at all, it’s the first step towards mass surveillance, better go back to the abacus!
thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
Your “sarcasm” is closer to the truth than what any of us can conceive, unfortunately.
Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
There’s still valid concern about this being a foot in the door tactic. Once an OS complies with this request what will the next one be? Why should this even be allowed?
Either way though, the reddit citation is a bit unnerving.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Sure, but reddit (& Lemmy) hyperventilating about this as if the milktoast laws are the same as full retenal scanning verified by Palantir has completely destroyed any sort of sensible discussion around this.
Personally I think doing nothing isn’t an option and so the unverified age API approach is the least bad solution i’ve seen.
And much better than pushing the verification server side. The main argument I’ve seen against it is either:
slippery nipples means that at some point a different worse law could be passed, which is possible, but worse laws have already been passed elsewhere so if that was the intent they could have gone for it in CA.
Parents should watch their kids better, which is disingenuous as this is litterally adding a tool to help do that in a standard way, rather than some flakey survailance app.
BassTurd@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
To your second point, make it a tool that can be enabled by a parent then, don’t make it a legal requirement for everyone. This is exactly like the latest Ring camera pet tracking debacle. Everyone saw the slippery slope threat and then reports came out that it was indeed planned for expansion. This is the same but worse, because ring cameras are optional.
Parents should parent and the government should keep their greedy data compiling fingers out of our person tech. They’ve proven time and time again that they can’t be trusted to do the right thing.
RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
The CA/CO approach doesn’t give the government any data, this is what I mean about reddit induced paranoia making sensible discussion impossible.
This is nowhere near as bad as Ring, I don’t get to control if Amazon are survailing me through my neighbors cameras, but I do get to decide what age input into my account setup screen, again trying to make storing my age sound worse than actual survailance tech linked to Palantir is insane!
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
It’s a gray area. If you have nothing to “protect the kids”, the feds might force it on a “non-compliant” state right now considering the fascism permeating our highest governments.
We’re starting to see desperate legislation more and more often. As a resident of CA, we had to vote FOR gerrymandering recently. It was disgusting, but it was direly needed to preserve democracy in the US.