As a domestic abuser survivor (of a woman), a lot of us men are just not taken seriously. It is a lot like how people diminish one person’s pain/suffering just because it “isn’t as bad” as someone else’s pain. Men are absolutely abused, raped, and falsely accused. But because it happens to women more, we have to bear our suffering in silence.
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Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 15 hours ago
can males avoid women drivers or is that considered sexist? what if a male wants to mitigate the chance of being falsely accused of assault/rape? I hope people have the choice regardless of gender
EmpatheticTeddyBear@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Wammityblam@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
No one is saying that men cannot be victims of harassment or assault.
However it is objectively true that women deal with this problem in much higher quantities than men do.
yucandu@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
However it is objectively true that women deal with this problem in much higher quantities than men do.
How do you know that it is objectively true, if you also know these statistics are based around a culture that discourages men from reporting this problem?
Gathorall@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
And that’s why there should be a “no foreigners or blacks”-option.
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 12 hours ago
Per RAINN, 57% of perpetrators are white. I’ll charitably imagine you’re attempting to point out perceived hypocrisy in gender vs race selection, but you’re perpetuating racist and xenophobic stereotypes. White men commit rape at more than twice the rate of black men, and naturally born citizens commit crimes at rates higher than both documented and undocumented immigrants.
If you want to make the case that it’s a discriminatory policy, you’re welcome to do so, but tying it to false perceptions of race is probably not the best move. It’s coming off as reactionary at best.
TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 14 hours ago
[deleted]WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 14 hours ago
I never understood this fear.
Always seems weird when people are more worried about accusations than sexual assault/harassement. The latter seems far more common ime, even if you are seen as a guy.
Glitchvid@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I think it’s a perspective thing.
Men are less likely to perceive themselves as potential SA victims: so the relative subjective “chance” of false accusationsagainst them vs being victims themselves impacts their priorities.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I’ve been sexually assaulted multiple times over my life, all by women. I did not conceive of the actions as assault until I heard women’s claims, of the same actions, be accepted as a form of sexual assault. Men absolutely under report their sexual assault, especially as the definition continues to be expanded, including more behaviors that men have already dismissed.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Why? Most people, most of the time, focus on the perceived threats to themselves. Men, some subgroup of men in particular, are at a higher risk of false accusations than of sexual assault. What is seen as a danger to them is likely what they’ll focus on. And that’s a very reasonable and fair thing to do. Is that not exactly what women do when they focus on the risk of sexual assault and not on the risk of false accusations?
Both are legitimate fears. Both make sense. Both should be respected but only one actually is, across society.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 6 hours ago
Men, some subgroup of men in particular, are at a higher risk of false accusations than of sexual assault.
Are they? The former seems pretty much unheard of while the latter ain’t uncommon. I think the only subgroup of men where the perceived risk of being falsely accused of SA are men who commit SA and just don’t believe it is SA.
yucandu@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
You ever tried taking a little girl to the park when you identified as a man?
It gets really weird when complete strangers go up to her and ask her if she knows you.
They don’t do that when you present as a woman.
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
I have had this happen on reverse
I when I go boymode, with my mom at some place like shopping mall, I got weird looks because people thought we were a couple
supamanc@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
This has never happened to me, and I take my daughter, and her friends to the park all the time…
minorkeys@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
And I’ve hung out with plenty of men and they’ve never sexually assaulted me…
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 14 hours ago
The amount of falsely accused is less than 5% of all the rape cases.
So a women getting raped is about 20 times more likely than a man being falsely accused of rape.
And that is only counting all the instances where the rape got reported.
artyom@piefed.social 13 hours ago
The amount of falsely accused is less than 5% of all the rape cases.
LOL how could you possibly know that?
So a women getting actually raped is about 20 times more likely than a man being falsely accused of rape.
So that makes false accusations a non-issue for men? Not sure what you’re trying to get at here.
Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
people just… don’t get it. I’m shocked everytime I mention equality, and get met with the above nonsense. lol
I will never understand people’s thought processes. if I said no women should have this, sure… but I’m asking for everyone to have the same right, like… what?
artyom@piefed.social 15 hours ago
LOL of course not. Equality for me, not for thee.
Wammityblam@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
This is the shit that makes men look bad.
Men absolutely do not experience sexual harassment at the same level that women do.
It’s not close at all.
Why can’t we just let the women have a dub without being all “buhhh what about da men???”
artyom@piefed.social 14 hours ago
Ad women don’t experience accusations of sexual harrassment at the same level that men do.
Why can’t we just support equality for everyone? Why is that so hard?
Wammityblam@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
As much as you want to try to paint men as the victims, they’re just not.
Yes, it happens. No it doesn’t not happen nearly as frequently.
This issue is extremely skewed toward women.
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 hours ago
Why can’t we just support equality for everyone? Why is that so hard?
At least part of it is because of people like you who get upset whenever someone challenges the grossly inequitous status quo.
jumjummy@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Are you an “All Lives Matter” clown? It sure reads that way.
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
are you trying to say being accused of sexual assault is the same as being sexually assaulted lmao
YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
That’s it, I’ve had it. Somebody get Joe Rogan in here so we can hash this out.
Havatra@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
It might be considered sexist, depending on who you ask.
The amount of males being falsely accused of sexual assault is much lower than the amount of females being exposed to sexual assault. Hence why there has been provided a measure for women at this scale, and not for men.
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
As a penis haver who has been falsely accused of sexual assault, it’s far more common than you think.
yucandu@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
And you know this because… vibes?
minorkeys@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
But the fear of sexual assault is why women prefer women, so ain’t the fear of accusations a justifiable reason? Why does it have to be equal to matter?