Comment on Are users who openly parrot literal Nazi talking points allowed here?
Seagoon_@aussie.zone 15 hours agoI think you should engage.
How else are you going to change minds than by engaging.
“I think you are a disgusting vermin, and anyone remotely liked you, should be killed.”
“That’s interesting. Let’s unpack that.”
You honestly think any kind of productive conversation is gonna happen between these two parties? Tolerance of intolerance in action, right here, folks.
Fyi you’re currently talking to the Nazi who caused this conversation to start.
Seagoon’s not a Nazi or promoting Nazi shit. I’ve seen them posting here and on reddit for years now. Something has been taken out of context.
Their rhetoric is very much Nazi aligned. Have a look at their longer comment in here. Claiming to be taken out of context and that meaning “not evening crossing” their mind, before immediately stating they did mean the “living space” remark in a genocidal manner. Just on behalf of the Palestinians.
To claim those being genocided are actually the ones who are genocidal, which implies post-hoc justification of Israel actions against them (alongside the protestor rally tangent), is Nazi behaviour.
To respond to someone providing the figures for the appalling number of civilian casualties over a short time frame with “at this rate it would take 300 hundred years to exterminate 2 million of them ” is Nazi adjacent behaviour.
Maybe they’re just a particular uninformed Zionist. However, neo nazis don’t typically wander around saying “that hitler guy is pretty swell amirite guys”. They excel in skirting around moderation online and irl. Hence the nazi bar anecdote; they use free speech as a shield and coded language/dog whistles. If they aren’t a Nazi their behaviour and rhetoric needs some serious introspection.
It’s hard to take the word of someone who evidently has a history of genocide denial and who then turns around and talks about lebensraum as anything other than an admission of a Nazi-like ideology.
Being someone who you can have a conversation about other subjects with does not affect that. Then turning around and denying it does not change anything.
The only thing that might change my mind would be a complete retraction of both the lebensraum comment and the “there is no genocide” ones.
CTDummy@aussie.zone 11 hours ago
A profound lack of awareness or an actual troll.
“I don’t want to engage with Nazis.”
“You should engage. How else will you change my, I mean, their mind.”