Comment on LibreOffice criticizes EU Commission over proprietary XLSX formats

twinnie@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Sv443@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Trying to get tech illiterate people to use LibreOffice and to export their documents as PDF but they just keep sending the original files every single time… nightmare material

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  • Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    “Don’t use that proprietary format ! Use PDF instead !”

    PDF is also an issue.

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    • Sv443@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      PDF can be opened anywhere, that’s my point.

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      • Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        * Only if you dont use the many still proprietary extensions of PDF I suppose.

        Anyway I’m not sure following the Adobe standard in our institutions is the smartest move.

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    • Dojan@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There are often also accessibility issues with PDF files depending on how they were created.

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      • recursivethinking@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        For best results, print your word doc and scan it back in on a flatbet scanner. Fun fact you don’t even need to keep the piece of paper square to the scanner.

        Or just take a picture of your monitor and text it.

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    • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Do you have a better idea, pal?

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      • Tetsuo@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        This is a conversation about the issue of proprietary formats in our institutions.

        And I think PDF is a problem in that regard. It’s not fully open and the format still can break. Forms in particular are still very problematics. Forms are very useful in institutions…

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    In college my professor wouldn’t accept pdfs for assignments because it guess he couldn’t check the metadata or make comments or something.

    So I literally had to download MS office just to submit assignments in their format…

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    • b_tr3e@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      There are some people who míght learn from a ransomware attack. Only if it personally hits them, of course.

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t know enough to understand the connection. Can you please explain?

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    • Imaginary_Stand4909@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Damn, I was gonna say just use web version, but they do often have missing features compared to app, so I understand why you had to download it…

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      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The web version is even worse! It’s all cloud-based, and you need a subscription unless your University pays for a license.

        The only reason to use it would be to write things in Libre and then copy/paste them into MS and manually fix all the formatting.

        I hated it, because all the professors could just smugly say “You know you have free access to Office 365 with your student email, right?”

        That’s not the fucking point! I don’t give a shit if it’s free, I don’t want to use a fucking microsoft product, especially one that’s cloud-based, when there’s a perfectly good open-source alternative that I can run locally on my own hardware.

        Just one of the many problems with the corporatization, commodification, and enshittification of education. If the focus was on learning and academic freedom, FOSS solutions would be encouraged. But no, you’re forced to use proprietary software, because “reasons” capitalism…

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• cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  And everytime I get a document in a Microsoft format I send a reply asking if this or that is supposed to look that way or be that value. Yet it’s the open format and tools that’s an issue somehow.

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  • mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    One thing I do like from LibreOffice is the ability to save to PDF but also embed the original document inside it.

    That way almost anyone can see it as intended, and the original is still there for editing.

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    • hoppolito@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Whoa I didn’t know that was an option, is it part of the export menu? That would make some of my - we needed to change something after all - situations much easier at work.

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  • Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That is supposed to be even with Microsoft office, because it changes the fonts without warning and adjusts the margins according to the default printer. It’s not a format designed to be shared with other people

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• grue@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Either the person is lying, because MS Office claims compatibility with OpenDocument files, or it isn’t actually compatible and Microsoft itself is lying.

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