Cheap license sites (windows, games, etc) usually use keys bought via stolen credit cards. Pirating it is much better than buying from those sites, including for the devs that get punished for chargebacks from those keys.
Giblets4all@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You can buy a used mini PC for less than the price of a new Windows 11 license. I know there are cheaper license sites out there (unclear how legit they are) but this way you get a Windows license and a spare PC to run Linux!
TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 9 months ago
jarfil@lemmy.world 9 months ago
the devs that get punished for chargebacks from those keys.
Just to be clear… in the case of Windows, that would be M$…?
vimdiesel@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Or just install Linux and never worry about that shit again lol
londos@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I agree, I don’t plan to go back! Just don’t like giving up the option.
londos@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Dumb q, if I install Linux and later decide to reinstall Windows, is that OEM license still good?
pjhenry1216@kbin.social 9 months ago
The answer is a resounding maybe. If you activated with a Microsoft account or if there's a TPM chip, the chances of it still working increases. There are different kinds of licenses, but if it fails, there's a better than not chance calling MS support and just telling them you had a hardware failure on your laptop and you need to reinstall, they'll get you going. Not a guarantee though. And I'll caveat and say this information is a couple years old (I don't work in tech support anymore).
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
You can just reactivate by troubleshooting your activation in Windows.
No need to call Microsoft about it.
pjhenry1216@kbin.social 9 months ago
The multiple posts of people not being able to do that should have made it clear that doesn't always work.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Definitely yes.
As long as you use the same motherboard.
scottywh@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yes
PeachMan@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They cost like $5 online, it’s not like it’s a huge risk. I’ve bought OEM keys before and they work fine. Just use a credit card so you can easily get a refund if it’s fake.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Those are usually Windows 7 or 8 keys.
Which do indeed work to activate Windows 10 and 11.
But not anymore.
confusedwiseman@lemmy.world 9 months ago
There could be a bit of a caveat here. I when I purchased my laptop it had windows 10 installed. When I installed Mint, I could not reuse that key in a VM because it was “different hardware”. The license, could not be transferred under any circumstance. I had also purchased the upgrade to Pro through the windows store. That’s also lost.
I seldom run windows, even in the VM, but it still leaves one a bit bitter.
pjhenry1216@kbin.social 9 months ago
Usually calling Windows support, they'll give you a key if you just tell them you replaced some piece of hardware due to failure, assuming you haven't been transferring the same key around for awhile. They tend to be more invested in keeping you in the Windows ecosystem than they are are just getting one more license sold.
confusedwiseman@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I called support, they said no. Asked for a one time exception, still no. The key to my knowledge was only used once on the laptop when I bought it new.
I wasn’t investing any more time in it.
Kepabar@startrek.website 9 months ago
Yes, an OEM license is not transferable from the hardware the OEM originally installed it on, even to a VM running on that hardware.
Giblets4all@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I reused a Win10 Pro key from a mini PC from 2015 onto a brand new build and it worked right away. Not sure what the difference is with your situation. Maybe it was your license type?
joey@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Laptop licences are linked to the hardware. You technically do not have a key to begin with.
confusedwiseman@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It was the license that came on an Acer laptop. Completely non transferable per Microsoft.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
Windows 10 links their license to the motherboard.
So as long as you use the same motherboard, the key will work.
This isn’t possible with VMs sadly.
mystik@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You can extract the SLIC value from the ACPI table, and then pass it through to QEMU (Example from my Libvirt configuration):
See more details here: gist.github.com/…/49bd034d43e054bd1d8d4fec38c305e…
It is my understanding that this can only be used to run the OEM license one one instance in a VM, on the specific hardware that is originally licensed. IE, you virtualize the license if the bootOS is Linux, but you can’t run 2 instances of the same windows license inside each other.
SavinDWhales@lemmy.world 9 months ago
When I build a new PC, I could not transfer my old 7 pro retail license, even though it worked fine on my old PC running Windows 10 and it even said it was a digital license connected to my MS account.
So I bought a Win 10 pro key from one of the ebay resellers aber everything was fine… until it wasn’t. I updated the firmware for my mainboard and Windows took that for a replacement of hardware. Troubleshooter did not show three option “I recently changed my hardware” and did not give me the option to call Microsoft’s support.
Turns out it was a “one time install” key which was invalidated by changing the hardware. So it couldn’t activate a second time. And since the key seller was out of business at that time (they’ll change accounts every few months), I had no way of getting the key replaced.
Luckily, I still had an old Windows 7 COA with key and CD lying around from an old Dell business Workstation. That activated just fine.
But yeah, even if you have a valid license connected to your Microsoft account, there’s no way of seeing it in your account, and it’s not guaranteed MS will honor it.