This was a preview summary of the data that’s awaiting publication by the University of Melbourne. It covered 1,100 people aged 13-17, and has been written by some Professor of Educational Psychology & Learning, Faculty of Education, The University of Melbourne.
Comment on 40% of teenage boys believe women lie about domestic and sexual violence: new research
fizzle@quokk.au 1 day ago
Misogyny is certainly a huge issue among young men.
I’m not sure about this research though. It’s always concerning when they don’t publish the actual data and questions et cetera.
Perhaps most alarming: roughly 40% of boys aged 13 to 17 agreed that women lie about domestic and sexual violence.
This one really, really depends on the question. Both men and women often lie and say that their partner doesn’t hit them. This is pretty well known actually. You’d have to be pretty naive to think it doesn’t happen.
Occasionally I’m sure that both men and women do lie and say that their partner does hit them, for a variety of complex reasons. An acquaintance of mine, a woman, signed a declaration to say that her partner hit her and then during court proceedings she admitted that was a false statement. Uh oh. Anyhow, it’s certainly a thing that happens.
Does that mean all women who claim to be victims of domestic abuse are liars? Certainly not. But are lies told about domestic violence? Of course.
Support for violence to resist feminism was highest among adolescent boys (28%), followed closely by adolescent girls (21%).
This is also curious. Obviously alarming, but how does one use violence to resist feminism? I’m genuinely confused as to what is meant by this. If you had asked 15 year old me, not really knowing what feminism is, I would have assumed it meant some kind of armed uprising of women, and yeah I would have said that in that context violence is ok.
Some respondents justified violence in the private sphere. If a woman disobeys in the home, a man should be able to control her with violence.
I notice that this fiery little truth bomb is tempered to “some respondents”. How many is some? I guess 2 at least.
Again, misogyny is a huge problem. It would be extraordinarily difficult to be a female teacher. My son is too young to have encountered this stuff but it’s definitely on my mind as we navigate the coming years. However, I think this article is intended to be incendiary rather than tease out the nuance revealed by their “research”.
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Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Right so that’s who did the research but it doesn’t show the results or their methodology. These are super important things to know!
Nomad@infosec.pub 1 day ago
At that age young men usually have no concept of violence rooted in reality at any significant numbers. So they assume young girls their ages mostly don’t experience violence while thinking violence is the thing from movies and they are ready to dole that out for things that they don’t agree with because they think they can change the world overnight at any price.
So asking this group of people is a challenge in of itself. The data and questions are missing, so I call incitement here in service of distracting from the class war and call it a day.
Maybe call the class war the Epstein wars in the future, I think it has a ring to it.
notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
I agree with you, and want to add that parents need to do better about addressing this issue as well. There are a million opportunities, every day, to demonstrate heathy gender roles and start conversations about role expectations with your child.
Dojan@pawb.social 1 day ago
This one really, really depends on the question. Both men and women often lie and say that their partner doesn’t hit them. This is pretty well known actually. You’d have to be pretty naive to think it doesn’t happen.
I’ve never been hit by a romantic partner. You’re saying that being hit in a relationship is common?
fizzle@quokk.au 1 day ago
No, im saying that amongst people who have been hit by a partner, they often lie and say that they have not.
Dojan@pawb.social 1 day ago
Aah, okay. That makes more sense.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
i’m a man and i’ve been hit by several partners. both long term and short term.
i end the relationship when it happens, but it certainly happens.
Dojan@pawb.social 22 hours ago
Oh I don’t doubt that it happens, but I interpreted it as “everyone gets hit in a relationship” and that seemed shocking to me.
I’m glad you don’t put up with that. No one should be abused by their partner, physically or otherwise.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
domestic violence rates are pretty high man. a quick google says 1/4 womenad 1/7 men experience it.
that’s not everyone but it’s a lot more than you’d hope.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
it means beat the shit out of people for having different beliefs than you.
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
If they word it like they did in the article I think asking their research question (asked to kids) was itself reinforcing a harmful understanding of gender and the kind of characteristics that can be applied to them. Individuals lie. Entire genders do not. Basically nothing applies across the entire category. In high school (the age of a lot of these respondents) they teach you to watch out for tricky multiple choice questions that sneak in an over inclusive option.
Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 day ago
Absolutely, I was so frustrated that I couldn’t find the data. They didn’t show their working so all I have to go on in terms of believing them is their reputation.