Comment on Motorola GrapheneOS devices will be bootloader unlockable/relockable

• DarkSirrush@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Because its grapheneos you will likely have NFC, but whether you have tap-for-payment options will be a crapshoot, especially in North America, unless having an official vendor changes things with grapheneos’s play store integrity issue (which is doubtful).

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  • themurphy@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Best shot is that EU will make it possible, as they distance themselves from US tech right now.

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    • DarkSirrush@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Its an issue that, currently, banks have to resolve by either developing (see certain EU banks that have done so) or supporting an NFC card management app that doesn’t require the highest level of the google play security thing to function.

      I doubt EU legislation can fix this, and I doubt Canadian banks will care enough to do anything to support anything beyond apple pay and google pay.

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  • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tap to pay is whatever but I do use NFC for some home automatons.

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    • jnod4@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What you use for home automation if you’re into open source and security?

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      • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I use the term home automation loosely. Mostly I use it for initiating Tasker scripts at home with a single tap.

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    • DarkSirrush@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can’t imagine grapheneos shipping on a phone without NFC.

      …I wish I had the money to play with homeassistant for random things.

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  • Logical@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I never realized you could have NFC and not tap-for-payment support. Is that not how tap-for-payment works?

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    • DarkSirrush@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The apps that enable tap-for-payment ask your bank for permission and some security details to activate using cards for NFC.

      In North America, banks won’t give that permission/security info to any android app but google pay, and only if the play store verification thing says the OS is fully secure - and google pretends grapheneos doesn’t hit those security metrics.

      So yes, NFC is how tap-for-payment works, but unless NA banks implement it themselves, or trust a 3rd party that isn’t google to implement it, grapheneos phones are blocked from using the tap-for-payment functionality.

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      • Logical@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s… Fucking stupid. But it’s to be expected from greedy, overly powerful tech corporations I suppose.

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• excursion22@piefed.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I quite like my Razr. I’m sure if they’re aiming to be a true alternative to the mainstream OSs, they’ll be including many of the mainstream features

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  • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m skeptical they will bother with the Razr, seems like a lot of work to intelligently use that external screen and Graphene probably doesn’t have the interest to do that. Would be happy to be proven wrong.

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    • TechLich@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think they supported the pixel fold which has the same sort of second flippy screen thing. I think the multiple screen stuff is just in the aosp base.

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• jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Motorola was kind of sluggish/selective about those, but they seem to pretty consistently have those features now. Always worth double checking.

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• 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m old school, I remember when NFC was used for stuff like domotics

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