Legal != effective or ethical, that is an unbelievably stupid argument for TPMS.
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Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks agoThe fact that you’ve gotten away with it is not proof that it’s unnecessary. The fact that it was legally mandated is good evidence that it is. These systems save lives, no question about it.
Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
LOL who said anything about ethics? This is an unbelievably stupid response.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
indeed, you said this:
The fact that it was legally mandated is good evidence that it is.
but their point was laws are not always made with good intentions and safety in mind. that’s not to say TPMS is required for secret surveillance, but that there being a law for it does not immediately mean there’s good purpose for that law.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
indeed, you said this
Indeed, that had nothing to do with ethics.
Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 2 weeks ago
The fact that it was legally mandated is good evidence that it is [necessary].
P1 If X is legally mandated then that is good evidence that X is necessary.
P2 slavery is legally mandated (in the USA through prison labour)
C1 There is good evidence slavery is necessary.
P3 [insert other silly/abhorrent thing here is legally mandated: ICE in general, state murder, HOAs…]
C2 There is good evidence silly/abhorrent thing is necessary.
ragepaw@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
What a shockingly wrong take. TPMS is a convenience, not a safety measure, have properly inflated tires is. And, anyone who properly maintains their car, doesn’t need it
And, it’s not legally mandated everywhere, even if it is for you.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
What an incredibly bad take. Indeed, having properly inflated tires is a safety issue. How do you know if they’re properly inflated? Are you checking them every 3 minutes while driving? Because TPMS is…
ragepaw@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Because I was bored
GIDAS data
www.ircobi.org/wordpress/downloads/…/2_3.pdf
It concludes that even if you increased grip, which includes tire pressure variance, by 15%, it would only represent a reduction of 2% of road related fatalities, which is actually within the margin of error.
While 2% sounds like a lot, GIDAS also shows that tire failures account for less than 1% of road accidents causing death.
So you’re spending $300 to $500 on a new car for a TPMS which reduces the probability of accidental death by 0.02%.
And fun fact, most tire related accidents are actually from tread depth, not low pressure, and TPMS will do fuck all to tell you your tread depth is low.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
It concludes that even if you increased grip
It’s nothing to do with grip. In fact, a lower tire pressure will actually increase grip.
tire failures account for less than 1% of road accidents causing death.
Oh well if no one died it must not be a safety issue?
So you’re spending $300 to $500 on a new car for a TPMS
Uhhh nope, it comes with the car…
And fun fact, most tire related accidents are actually from tread depth, not low pressure
So we’re just going to ignore it as a safety issue because it’s not a main cause of collisions?
ragepaw@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Because I am not a complete fucking idiot.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Because I am not a complete fucking idiot.
Mmmmmm
You are unaware of the operational aspects of your vehicle and are a danger to the people around you.
WTF is a “operational aspect”?
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
lots of things are legally mandated without any good evidence.
Lots of things legally mandated in the past are now unconscionable or illegal now.