Comment on Your car’s tire sensors could be used to track you
ragepaw@lemmy.ca 3 weeks agoI managed to drive cars for 30 years without a TPMS sensor and the only time I ever had a to check the pressure on a tire, was when I knew i had a leak and didn’t have time to fix it. I can also tell by the way my car drives if a tire is soft. I also had an air pump in my car powered by a cigarette lighter adapter that I could fill my tires.
My current car, from 2019 doesn’t have one. I’ve managed to own it 7 years (this week) without needing to check the pressure 2500 times.
The assertion you need to check your pressure everyday without a TPMS system is ridiculous.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
The fact that you’ve gotten away with it is not proof that it’s unnecessary. The fact that it was legally mandated is good evidence that it is. These systems save lives, no question about it.
greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 3 weeks ago
lots of things are legally mandated without any good evidence.
Lots of things legally mandated in the past are now unconscionable or illegal now.
Delilah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Legal != effective or ethical, that is an unbelievably stupid argument for TPMS.
Ulrich@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
LOL who said anything about ethics? This is an unbelievably stupid response.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
indeed, you said this:
but their point was laws are not always made with good intentions and safety in mind. that’s not to say TPMS is required for secret surveillance, but that there being a law for it does not immediately mean there’s good purpose for that law.
Fedegenerate@fedinsfw.app 2 weeks ago
P1 If X is legally mandated then that is good evidence that X is necessary.
P2 slavery is legally mandated (in the USA through prison labour)
C1 There is good evidence slavery is necessary.
P3 [insert other silly/abhorrent thing here is legally mandated: ICE in general, state murder, HOAs…]
C2 There is good evidence silly/abhorrent thing is necessary.
ragepaw@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
What a shockingly wrong take. TPMS is a convenience, not a safety measure, have properly inflated tires is. And, anyone who properly maintains their car, doesn’t need it
And, it’s not legally mandated everywhere, even if it is for you.
Ulrich@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
What an incredibly bad take. Indeed, having properly inflated tires is a safety issue. How do you know if they’re properly inflated? Are you checking them every 3 minutes while driving? Because TPMS is…
ragepaw@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Because I was bored
GIDAS data
www.ircobi.org/wordpress/downloads/…/2_3.pdf
It concludes that even if you increased grip, which includes tire pressure variance, by 15%, it would only represent a reduction of 2% of road related fatalities, which is actually within the margin of error.
While 2% sounds like a lot, GIDAS also shows that tire failures account for less than 1% of road accidents causing death.
So you’re spending $300 to $500 on a new car for a TPMS which reduces the probability of accidental death by 0.02%.
And fun fact, most tire related accidents are actually from tread depth, not low pressure, and TPMS will do fuck all to tell you your tread depth is low.
ragepaw@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Because I am not a complete fucking idiot.