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mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days agoSee even now you’re still putting qualifiers on your “support”. The genocide and settlerism has been going on before netanyahu or “his administration”. It’s baked into the system. This is like complaining about president botha during the fight against apartheid.
And that “obviously biased” news sourced, is itself sourced. You’re not gonna get an MSNBC newspiece or whatever it is you consider “unbiased” because all of western mainstream media is owned and controlled by capitalists and they have a vested interest in the zionist project.
Also your statement that there are non-genocidal isntreally bombs is a pretty bold one all things considered, care to give an example of one such bomb you would consider justified?
Photonic@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’m sure the oppression, including bombings that take civilian lives has been going on for a while. Genocide has a different definition so that’s simply not true.
IDGAF about what you say about your shitty news source. I’m gonna trust it as much as I’m gonna trust MAGA.com on anything about the democrats. And I’m not in the US either. Not all media is as biased as you think in Europe. I’m sure Jerusalem has long arms but they don’t control all media.
My statement is not bold at all. It is simple truth and also simply a matter of chance (with your user name I think that may appeal to you).
If a bomb lands on a terrorist’s car, that’s not genocide. Some bombs still land on terrorists. And as always, terrorists who choose kill innocent kids because their parents oppress their people can fuck off and die a horrible death.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
According to Yehuda Bauer:
[Genocide is] the planned destruction, since the mid-nineteenth century, of a racial, national, or ethnic group as such, by the following means: (a) selective mass murder of elites or parts of the population; (b) elimination of national (racial, ethnic) culture and religious life with the intent of “denationalization”; © enslavement, with the same intent; (d) destruction of national (racial, ethnic) economic life, with the same intent; (e) biological decimation through the kidnapping of children, or the prevention of normal family life, with the same intent… [Holocaust is] the planned physical annihilation, for ideological or pseudo-religious reasons, of all the members of a national, ethnic, or racial group.
Aside from © I think all apply to what Israel has been doing forever.
I live in Germany. All the news sources here have been reporting hasbara like “decapitated babies” since day one, all reports out of Palestine get qualified with shit like “according to the hamas-led health ministry…”. They’re all in lockstep, look at what they did to Hüseyin Dogru if you want an example of what happens if you break rank. Germans even started calling Iraqi people Iraqi instead of the german “Iraker” during the US war on Iraq because we’re that far up the US state departements ass.
Photonic@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I think trying to bend the definition to make it fit the word isn’t worth discussing: it’s all semantics. We both know what has been happening.
And you can’t make a blanket statement about “all media” based on the few you have seen in one country with a heavily biased view.
I’m less emotional and more pragmatic. I try to stick to whatever facts we do know and not make assumptions that are more based on my feelings than on reality. That does mean “we” don’t know a lot of the terrible stuff that is going on, and that does mean ignoring some sources if they seem heavily biased. Even though there may be some truth in what they’re reporting, it will always be worse than a credible fact-driven (and not emotion-driven) news source.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Do you agree that the Nakba was a form of genocide? Do you believe that Isntreal has a “right to defend” what it stole during the Nakba and since?