Comment on Asus and Dell announce new mini PCs for Windows 365 | Goodbye local OS

jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Don’t you guys have internet?”

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• Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  yes but how often does your internet go down? I agree with the sentiment and I hate this but we should think about this from an average user perspective when we make our argument. Internet doesnt go down, I’ve had more electricity outages than internet outages in the past 5 years. if you live in a city its a rare thing.

  The reason why people shouldnt want this in my opinion is not because its day to day worse but because its worse long term. These companies will offer it at a low price to entice you then yank the rug out from under you. You will never be safe with an option like this because at any time it can be taken from you and one day there might not be an alternative market of computers to purchase.

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  • flightyhobler@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Congratulations. My home internet was down the whole day yesterday. My power goes out at least once or twice per month due to the current nature of the power line structure. I live in Europe.

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    • timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

      I live in (Eastern) Europe.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      This product is aimed at people who live in places with reliable infra. (no offense intended)

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      • AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Name a single country with no power outages

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  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If thats happening you got bigger problems

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It’s especially in those situations (like with climate warming, increasing political unrest and top-down control) that you want a working system. And also that connectivity is one of the first things to go down.

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  • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yes but how often does your internet go down?

    I have a 1Gb connection. I work in software development. I live in a nice neighbourhood. My internet goes down all the time.

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    • rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I live in a major city that’s been carved up by the local monopolists like a turkey, and none of them have even installed coverage in all the areas they’ve claimed and which their “competitors” won’t touch. Some people just can’t have a good connection because of their address.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Im sorry to hear that. Maybe this is a product aimed at 1st world countries. Expected downtime for 1st world countries is normally under an hour a year and I think people can live with that.

      If your internet is shit you do not need to buy this.

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      • CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I do live in a 1st world country. I enjoy socialized (free) health care. And actually my country has some of the best internet in the developed world.

        Maybe this is a product aimed at 1st world countries.

        I guess that rules out the USA.

        Expected downtime for 1st world countries is normally under an hour a year

        Citation needed.

        If your internet is shit you do not need to buy this.

        Nobody should buy this.

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The dodgy WiFi gear from my fiber provider requires a hard re-set at least once a week. I had to do that just today.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have no idea how you put up with that. I would not accept that from any ISP router. If my ISP router has any issue I can ship it back for free and receive a brand new one a few days later. There should also be options for bringing your own router.

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      • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Fiber gear is a little different and I’d rather deal with this than the bullshit data caps and price hike games with Comcast. 😉

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  • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    yes but how often does your internet go down?

    About once a month. Not for very long, but it is an annoyance. Xfinity usually does maintenance between 1am and 2am, and the Internet will be out for about 30 minutes to an hour. About once a year it goes down for at least half a day.

    My OS hasn’t gone down at all in 20 years. I don’t want that to change. If an OS stops working for an hour once a month for maintenance, it’s a piece of refried shit.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      im sorry your ISP is dogshit. I dont think anyone in your area will want to buy this product.

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      • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That’s the problem. Comcast is famous in the US for being utter dogshit. So is ATT. And that’s pretty much our choices.

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “Now updating, please wait!”

      I mean, technically not “down” but not exactly usable either. 😉

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  • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What happens if the local ISP/electrical/whatever decides there need for maintenance?
    Not every company can afford redundant high speed internet.

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    • Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ok your internet goes down for a few hours and life moves on. Its not the end of the world.

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      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Didnt know a company that relies on the internet can just move on lmao.
        That could some cost their job. But hey, just move on (งツ)ว

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• pycorax@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Considering this is very clearly targeted enterprise, there’s probably some sector of a company that works on data that’s only in the cloud anyways. They’re likely the ones asking for this. I highly doubt this would become a norm across the enterprise.

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