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surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Assuming you’re not just a troll or Russian plant.

It IS flawed. But it’s also REQUIRED. we have a first past the post voting system. Only one of two parties can win. So you never vote FOR anyone. You vote AGAINST the worst candidate. Voting for third party helps both main parties equally by reducing the bar to win.

Hate it all you like, but that’s just math. You want it to be different? Push for ranked choice.

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K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
The easiest way to get around that is to mass vote for a 3rd party candidate, FPTP fixed. Doing things the DNC way has been a total failure.

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- surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Well, two things. First, the tea party did exactly that and it didn’t fix first past the post. They just tanked the Republicans, and then melded it into the Republican party the next season.
  
  Second, there are a certain number of Americans that will vote Republican or Democrat because that is what they self-identify as. That number is about 30% of the voting population. So for a third party to be viable, they would have to take all of the independents, and then break some people of their identity.
  
  So is it possible? Yes. Will you ever be able to do it? No. It’s possible the same way winning the lottery is possible. I.e. it feels like a chance to people who are bad at math.
  
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  - K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Theres always the lazy route and continue doing whats gotten us to where we are now.
    
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- Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  I would LOVE to see a massive third party movement that makes more options possible!
  
  I would also love to see the Browns win a Super Bowl.
  
  I agree it’s the superior scenario, but if you vote third party, your being that the Browns are going to win the Super Bowl. Sure, it could be a huge victory, but odds are, you’re going to lose.
  
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- fizzle@quokk.au ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Theres not going to be a mass vote for a 3rd party.
  
  Absurdly unrealistic.
  
  You can’t even get a few percent to not vote for an authoritarian felon child rapist.
  
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  - K1nsey6@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Then you better get busy canvasing for one otherwise you will get more of the same
    
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Ryoae@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Disagree, way to make baseless assumptions. You’re why people don’t want to vote.

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- surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You can disagree all day. Do you have any logic behind that disagreement? Or just a bunch of feels?
  
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