Not easy to witness here either, unless it is jut sick private farming (concuss damage witnessing, what cannot be hidden, water damage, noise-disturbing neighbors’ sleep & smells-methane & Etc. environmental pollutions-damages & Etc..), which I have right next door. Keep in mind all down on lands that used to be a lot better, my case my deceased grandparents owned the property & had a forest of trees everywhere (one area so much, think it was indigenous & naturally occurring, failed nursery attempt)- protected their nearly untouched & formerly crappy home during worse tornado to hit our state. Heck, before our species dominated the land it was a natural wetland, unfortunately before corner into ever shrinking world celebrated Natural Park.
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remon@ani.social 10 hours agoYeah, I don’t know anything about rodeo, sounds fucked up. But I’ve never witness any horse or cow beaten down at any of the local farms around the area where I grew up.
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 9 hours ago
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 8 hours ago
I have seen horrible conditions the private farmed animals, not just cows-steers-calves (I stupidly have not mentioned much about them, if result in such processes for in far future selling to meat industries), for profits of slaughtering & eating. Two-examples (private farms, next door let male & female do it naturally, not selling their milk) are just summer thunder storms results in mud up to the area between cows’-steers’ ankles & knees. Hoof problems anyone, Around this area private farms with this problem, because destruction of the land, refuse to admit it happens. & I hear some & off & on cows-steers-calves coughing, sneezing & breathing with congestion.
If people lived next door to just these non-industrialized private farm, then they would eventually become Vegan.
remon@ani.social 8 hours ago
Heh, I’ve seen this said sooooo many times, but I feel like the opposite is true. I grew up in a small village, a few hundred people. We didn’t have a farm ourselves but have my friends did so I hang out around them a lot.
I don’t claim to know everything about the conditions because of that, but I did see someone put their arm inside a cow and horse and my grandma once showed me to slaughter a rabbit (we ate it later), so it’s not like I was sheltered from the more graphic aspects.
Yet, when I look back at the people in my life (and I’m quite old and moved around a lot), almost all the vegans I know are city people. I’m really not aware of any vegans from my home area, which is much more rural. Being around animals in a farm setting doesn’t seem to make people vegan, it desensitises them, at least in my experience.
For context: I’m talking about a rural area in southern Germany, I’m can’t really say how things are in other regions.
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 8 hours ago
I have more belief in the average “person”, affected by this all.
You were not sheltered & you were indoctored (SP?) into it.
You know one here, for 30-20+-years, do not know the exact year/date. Plus, being sliding into Veganism or even Vegan in such areas is huge negative, believe me, I knew it, when were NOT invade (too strong, not so sure of that) by The Even Richer-Super Riche Economic Classes/Owners as neighbors, not all, but far, far &far too many that ghost us, unless need something & even more important that the county-state-country-world was a lot more hating Veganism & Animals/Beings Rights.
True, for me as well, not lived in Southern Germany for so many decades.