Comment on "Being vegan is unnatural"
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 10 hours agoLOL, come on man,
I live in Rodeo & the animals of rodeo country & I can tell you they are beaten down, so much that they have to be hurt to get in rodeo action, that “people” loves so much. Same is applied to all animals industries, you conditioned under those situations, even if you have never interacted (directly or not) with. Same applies to the “people” around it, like the facts always say, cops-military “people” do not have highest suicidal (SP?) rates in The USA (doubt much different everywhere else that other Beings are treated this way) it is “people” in animals meat processing plants.
remon@ani.social 10 hours ago
Yeah, I don’t know anything about rodeo, sounds fucked up. But I’ve never witness any horse or cow beaten down at any of the local farms around the area where I grew up.
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 8 hours ago
I have seen horrible conditions the private farmed animals, not just cows-steers-calves (I stupidly have not mentioned much about them, if result in such processes for in far future selling to meat industries), for profits of slaughtering & eating. Two-examples (private farms, next door let male & female do it naturally, not selling their milk) are just summer thunder storms results in mud up to the area between cows’-steers’ ankles & knees. Hoof problems anyone, Around this area private farms with this problem, because destruction of the land, refuse to admit it happens. & I hear some & off & on cows-steers-calves coughing, sneezing & breathing with congestion.
If people lived next door to just these non-industrialized private farm, then they would eventually become Vegan.
remon@ani.social 8 hours ago
Heh, I’ve seen this said sooooo many times, but I feel like the opposite is true. I grew up in a small village, a few hundred people. We didn’t have a farm ourselves but have my friends did so I hang out around them a lot.
I don’t claim to know everything about the conditions because of that, but I did see someone put their arm inside a cow and horse and my grandma once showed me to slaughter a rabbit (we ate it later), so it’s not like I was sheltered from the more graphic aspects.
Yet, when I look back at the people in my life (and I’m quite old and moved around a lot), almost all the vegans I know are city people. I’m really not aware of any vegans from my home area, which is much more rural. Being around animals in a farm setting doesn’t seem to make people vegan, it desensitises them, at least in my experience.
For context: I’m talking about a rural area in southern Germany, I’m can’t really say how things are in other regions.
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 8 hours ago
I have more belief in the average “person”, affected by this all.
You were not sheltered & you were indoctored (SP?) into it.
You know one here, for 30-20+-years, do not know the exact year/date. Plus, being sliding into Veganism or even Vegan in such areas is huge negative, believe me, I knew it, when were NOT invade (too strong, not so sure of that) by The Even Richer-Super Riche Economic Classes/Owners as neighbors, not all, but far, far &far too many that ghost us, unless need something & even more important that the county-state-country-world was a lot more hating Veganism & Animals/Beings Rights.
True, for me as well, not lived in Southern Germany for so many decades.
GreatWhite_Shark_EarthAndBeingsRightsPerson@piefed.social 9 hours ago
Not easy to witness here either, unless it is jut sick private farming (concuss damage witnessing, what cannot be hidden, water damage, noise-disturbing neighbors’ sleep & smells-methane & Etc. environmental pollutions-damages & Etc..), which I have right next door. Keep in mind all down on lands that used to be a lot better, my case my deceased grandparents owned the property & had a forest of trees everywhere (one area so much, think it was indigenous & naturally occurring, failed nursery attempt)- protected their nearly untouched & formerly crappy home during worse tornado to hit our state. Heck, before our species dominated the land it was a natural wetland, unfortunately before corner into ever shrinking world celebrated Natural Park.