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Comment on YSK What to do if someone’s choking: Evidence says begin with back blows

Slatlun@lemmy.ml ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

This is interesting because CPR/first aid classes specifically teach (taught) that back blows are harmful and cause obstructions to get lodged lower in the airway except for very young people who you can turn upsidedownish. Time to rethink. Love it!

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ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Since when? Current Resus Council (UK) guidelines are for back blows first. You make sure the person is bending over forwards first.

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scutiger@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
When giving the back blows, you should have the person bend over first.

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toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
I was taught the same as a part of nurse training - maybe I was given outdated information, I don’t know. Bu t of course I was surprised by the article

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- NannerBanner@literature.cafe ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  My most recent bls cpr recert talked about back blows, and said chest thrusts before abdominal thrusts.
  
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  - thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Chest thrusts as in chest compressions? Like whet the heart stops? What if the heart is still beating??
    
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    NannerBanner@literature.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    No, not chest compressions, though that IS what you go to if they don’t stop choking, and then become unconscious (because not breathing is a direct path to not beating). Again, I’ll refer to the wikipedia article someone else has posted in these comments, but chest ‘thrusts’ are similar to the abdominal thrust, but your hands are placed higher, around the rib cage rather than just under it as with the heimlich/abdominal.
    
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    toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I really hope it’s about Heimlich, not really thrusts :)
    “Are you choking? Here comes the punch!”
    
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ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Specifically… Right up until they changed it just last year.

Things like this and CPR get changed more often than a lot of people would expect (which is also to say most people never know it changes) but it all gets changed based on what seems like it has the best outcome based on the information\data at hand. Usually there’s one or two adjustments every decade. Make some changes and then see if odds improve over the course of years.

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idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
That’s misinformation sponsored by heimlich himself

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