Comment on US judge upholds $243 million verdict against Tesla over fatal Autopilot crash

• chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The jury found that the marketing from Tesla didn’t line up with the actual abilities. Musk is on record saying that Autopilot drives better than a human. They also stated that it should only be used on highways and access roads, but even with their GPS always active, the car doesn’t differentiate between road types, and so will let you use it anywhere you like.

  On top of that, Tesla triggered the car to wipe the crash data from the local copy 3 minutes after the accident so that the only copy of the crash data that remained was stored on their servers and could be tampered with.

  All of that led the jury to giving 33% fault to Tesla, which, again, I think is fair.

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Tesla advertised a feature of a car that failed to work in the way it was described.

    So first off, this was mainly what I was replying about and I should have probably quoted it. The car 100% worked exactly as described. Any claims about how good AP may be, go 100% out the window the moment your foot is on the accelerator and it tells you the car will not brake.

    Also I don’t think he’s ever said AP drives safer than a human, it’s humans using autopilot are safer than driving without it. It’s always because you are supervising it that it’s safer than without. It can’t even change lanes or stop for traffic lights, how on earth could that be safer than a human unless it’s with human supervision?

    Tesla wiping/causing problems getting the data should probably be it’s own case and doesn’t really have to do with the actual merits of this specific case IMO and whether or not they were responsible.

    The working outside of highways is really the only valid thing.

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    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      There’s a lot of civic owners form the late 90s and early 2k’s who would have an opinion about faulty airbags. My mother can’t even feel her bottom lip now because of this airbag shit.

      ….she hit the steering wheel, bit it off, had it stocked back on, but the nerves were severed.

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      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Dang that sucks, I’m sorry to hear that. I’m not saying faulty air bags are okay, they are not. They’ve been the subject of one of (the?) largest recall ever.

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    • WanderingThoughts@europe.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also I don’t think he’s ever said AP drives safer than a human

      He’s been carefull about saying it outright. There are many clips though about him saying it will be safer, up to 10 times safer, but always soon, in a few years, in the future. And he’s saying that for years now. Enough people assume it came true.

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      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Usually that’s about FSD. Its almost never about AP.

        I believe he’s even said he thinks FSD is safer than a human now, within the past year or so.

        At the time this happened, FSD beta wasn’t even released.

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