Comment on Dbzero has Defederated from Feddit.org following its Governance post about the later's Zionist Bar Problem

n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• agentant@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t see a reason why you should. It’s not like the vote didn’t happen for good reason. There’s no good reason to speak to genocide apologists.

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  • n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Its this kind of bad-faith accusative argument that I hate most, from wherever it comes.

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    • agentant@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t see how it’s bad faith to call an instance that has taken a stance in favor of a genocide "genocide apologist. They are doing genocide apologia. If you aren’t a genocide apologist, you should leave the genocide apologist instance, same as leaving the nazi bar if you aren’t a nazi.

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      • n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have not seen evidence that the plurality of that instance is in favor of genocide. Im open to evidence.

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  • hakase@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Uh oh, if .ml is defending them db0 really is a lost cause.

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    • mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I sm nlt an ml user and I still defend db0. Now what?

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    • monkeyjoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      .world user here, I am defending them. Are they a lost cause because they don’t support mass murder or are they are lost cause because they support international justice?

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    • agentant@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m actually a Hexbear user. This is my alt.

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      • LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        People are going to assume this is a joke, lmao.

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    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “If ml says genocide is bad, then I support genocide!”

      Literally reactionary.

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    • alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Congratulations, you just earned yourself the “🤡” user tag!

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• kcweller@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Did you not read the rules for joining DB0 before you joined. They clearly state a full anti-zionist stance right there.

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  • n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    eyeroll yes doofus. Do you think I support zionism?

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    • kcweller@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No? I hope not, or joining DB0 would be a completely strange action. But you seem to think that their explicit rules on Zionism would not mean that they would act on a zionist-bar-like instance.

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• alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The vote was literally pinned instance-wide for a week and it passed with an overwhelming absolute majority, with majority of comments (of various active and established users) calling for a defed instead of community bans

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• Riverside@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Any recommendations?

  Seeing your political inclinations you may wanna check out nazis.love, zionism.supporters, and netanyahu.net

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  • n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You people are worse than reddit

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• db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  • it means a minority can pass a rule without it being even seen by the majority (not sure that matters in this case). Voting should be done in a top-level comment.

  Why do you think that?

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  • n0respect@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think I wasnt thinking clearly. sticked posts it doesn’t matter what the up/downvote ratio is, its still gets pushed to all. COrrect?

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    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes

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  • Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People might not see the stickied post, for whatever reason. I’m mostly on X hours top, which hides the thread if older than X hours. Or someone could just not use Lemmy for a week. There is no notification or similar, no email alert.

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    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would argue that this would be the minority of users, not the majority.

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      • Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Are there stats for how much voting eligible users there are, and how much of them actually vote on governance topics, or see (click on) governance topics?

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• Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You can come to feddit.org, we have mostly normal people instead of armchair internet warriors lol

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  • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    True! discuss.tchncs.de is also pretty nice. We have a few more communities that feddit has defederated.

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• Limerance@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  sh.itjust.works

  or go to piefed

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• Enkrod@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Idk, the process looked fine to me. I can’t say I agree with the arguments and the outcome, but it never looked like a bad process.

  Up-/Downvotes on a pinned post doesn’t change visibility for instance users.

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