Comment on Gentoo Linux Begins Codeberg Migration In Moving Away From GitHub, Avoiding Copilot

• TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s in every enterprise and business contract signed with them. The FAQ was just the first result on Google. Its obviousness shouldn’t even require that much. It’s extremely clear how few of Lemmy’s “technology” crowd have any contact with adult life.

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  • brennesel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Why are you referring all your answers to GitHub Enterprise and corporate contracts? Nobody here is talking about that, as the news is about an open source project. Public GitHub and GitHub Enterprise are fundamentally different.

    You accuse others of responding based solely on “vibes,” but you do exactly the same thing in the opposite direction. And yet, of all people, you’re saying we don’t act like adults.

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    • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      All of the responses are saying that Github reads all code. Github public and Github enterprise are products of the same organisation. Many are even saying they will consume enterprise data anyway despite contracts not to. As I said in my first response, there aren’t many things that would ruin Microsoft’s ability to operate but this is one.

      What vibes do you think I’m going off?

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      • Paulemeister@feddit.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Dude AI companies do not give a fuck about the law. It’s hard to prove a specific piece of data was used to train a model so they put everything in they can. There’s literally a lawsuit about this, where Microsoft and others claim using code on GitHub to train is fair use.

        As far as I can tell this lawsuit is about copyright infringement of open source code, but as we where talking about an open source project leaving GitHub because of this, that’s what’s relevant.

        I myself would not be surprised if they could not withstand the urge to put more high quality code from enterprise users into their training data, but as they are not suing and we don’t know their code, that’s speculation.

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      • brennesel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What vibes do you think I’m going off?

        What I meant was that you read the comments, identified inconsistencies from your point of view, and then responded in a confrontational manner without including the whole context.

        You do have some good points. But instead of opposing everything that has been said, you could have differentiated much better.

        For example:

        • Public repositories on github.com are definitely used for AI training
        • Private repositories on github.com are suspected of being used for training
        • Github Enterprise Cloud is probably contractually protected
        • Github Enterprise Server is the most secure of all options due to contracts and self-hosting (and therefore the only valid option for enterprises with proprietary code)

        All of the responses are saying that Github reads all code.

        The first comment explicitly mentions “hosted on GitHub”, which at least excludes GitHub Enterprise Server, which is self-hosted.

        The article is about an open source project that, by definition, uses public repositories.

        Github public and Github enterprise are products of the same organisation.

        Coming from someone who tells others that they first need to deal with “adult life”, I find this statement surprising. I work for an international company and manage several Github orgas with hundreds of repos. Whether the code is stored on github.com or on our own Github Enterprise server is highly relevant and makes a huge difference.

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  • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    source: just trust me bro

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    • TheOctonaut@mander.xyz ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Source: I’m employed

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Who are you employed by, I wonder?

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