Comment on Gentoo Linux Begins Codeberg Migration In Moving Away From GitHub, Avoiding Copilot
brennesel@discuss.tchncs.de 15 hours agoWhat vibes do you think I’m going off?
What I meant was that you read the comments, identified inconsistencies from your point of view, and then responded in a confrontational manner without including the whole context.
You do have some good points. But instead of opposing everything that has been said, you could have differentiated much better.
For example:
- Public repositories on github.com are definitely used for AI training
- Private repositories on github.com are suspected of being used for training
- Github Enterprise Cloud is probably contractually protected
- Github Enterprise Server is the most secure of all options due to contracts and self-hosting (and therefore the only valid option for enterprises with proprietary code)
All of the responses are saying that Github reads all code.
The first comment explicitly mentions “hosted on GitHub”, which at least excludes GitHub Enterprise Server, which is self-hosted.
The article is about an open source project that, by definition, uses public repositories.
Github public and Github enterprise are products of the same organisation.
Coming from someone who tells others that they first need to deal with “adult life”, I find this statement surprising. I work for an international company and manage several Github orgas with hundreds of repos. Whether the code is stored on github.com or on our own Github Enterprise server is highly relevant and makes a huge difference.
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 8 hours ago
This is the very simple statement that I was responding to, along with the next line about how using Github is implicit consent to feeding your data to an LLM. If the poster wants nuance, they are free to provide it themselves. You can see in subsequent responses there is none.
Of course them being different matters. That’s my point. Not all code uploaded to Github is being fed into an LLM. It is not consent if you are signing a contract demanding that something not be done. It’s preposterous even at a surface level.
Github Enterprise Server is different from Github Enterprise Cloud, which is what I was talking about, and which is explicitly not used for training LLMs, and if it were, would absolutely kill Github as a product and likely mire Microsoft in years of litigation.
Frankly I don’t know of any software company using Github Enterprise on-prem but I suppose there are probably some CEOs out there who haven’t taken the OpEx pill. Maybe deep in the rainforest with Mokele-Mbembe. Certainly in my sliver of the tech industry, telecoms, the idea of owning a server is akin to having a deskphone and an outgoing mail room.
brennesel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 hours ago
And that is the statement where I have to say that we must agree to disagree. I would find it a shame if the Fediverse just became Reddit 2.0.
Self-hosted does not automatically mean on-prem. Most companies will not have their own server racks on site, but will either rent them or, most likely, use their own managed hyperscaler cloud. Github Enterprise Cloud, on the other hand, always runs on Azure and is managed by Microsoft.