Comment on Parents opt kids out of school computers, insisting on pen-and-paper instead

• andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There are multiple such platforms - Canvas, ClassDojo, InfiniteCampus. Heck, you can even go with the free and open source Moodle. Most of these also integrate with useful online tools, like Desmos (graphing calculator) and PHeT (science simulations.)

  This can help with workload, because you can often set up things like multiple choice quizzes that grade themselves.

  The problem is that some skills simply need to be learned with pen and paper. I have taught and tutored chemistry for years - balancing equations and stoichiometry are skills that you can’t really learn on a computer.

  There’s also evidence that computer based notetaking is less effective - that students remember less.

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  • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That makes a lot of sense. I think there’s plenty of research to back up your claim about writing helping memory, too. I used to try to remember things better by (1) writing it down, (2) reading it aloud, (3) thinking about the next level up.

    Number 3 is probably less useful outside fields where you’re constantly trying to “scale” systems… but in any case, it’s a thought experiment that happens to be really good at exposing the boundaries of concepts. Like… “okay, I built one server… now, what if I needed to manage a farm of 1000? What issues then become more pronounced?”

    Out of curiosity, do any of these platforms try to marry itself with paper workflows? Maybe stuff like:

    • teachers can submit a printable paper doc
    • students can print it out as needed, submit the finished result
    • students can take pictures of their handwritten notes and store them in a digital journal
    • platform comes with handwriting analysis, full-text-search, … all that jazz?

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    • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Canvas has a very neat “annotation” tool, where the teacher can upload a document and students can write on it and submit.

      I also see a lot of canvas assignments where the answer is in an auto graded quiz, but the teacher has the students take a picture and upload to show their scratch work. This can be added as a “question” to the assignment.

      There are good ways to use the tools for sure - I did really like that the auto graded quizzes on canvas could use randomized numbers. Eg, when I did speed/distance/time, I could write a word problem where it would randomize the quantities so each student got a unique quiz and couldn’t cheat.

      Tools like PHeT/CK12/other simulation programs are also a godsend. Even working with college chemistry, being able to show visual representations of acid/base dissociation or how to balance an equation makes things so much easier.

      The platforms are great - the work flow problems are more consequent to the way the school system is set up, especially in the Title 1 hell schools that are left to fall through the cracks.

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