LeFantome@programming.dev 1 day ago
I used to be an audiophile. I spent a lot of money on speakers, and amplifiers, and DACs. But I always found the audiophile cable crowd a bit nuts. And the people that are buying audiophile versions of stuff in the digital domain are full on delusional.
I say “used to be” for two reasons. One, hearing everything does not always mean better. A lot of the time it just reveals imperfections in the recording. And depending on the space, and ambient noise, more headroom can be worse because it just pushes the quiet stuff below the background. And, you are going to have to listen to music in places that you do not have your gear and it is going to sound bad if you get too used to the good stuff. So your music life may be worse overall.
But the biggest difference is that I am older. I just cannot tell the difference as well as I used to.
But most people spend too much money on the equipment and not enough on the sources. You do not need a $20,000 setup if you are listening to badly encoded MP3 or AAC files for example.
But if you have high quality FLAC or Opus sources (or really high-end analog), you do not have to be an audiophile to tell the difference. Same with linear power supplies. You can hear the difference even if you do not spend so much money.
Like wine, audiophiles often make it more about the money they spend than the quality they are getting or the experience they are having.
That said, I can still hear well enough to know that 80% of the people that play music around me turn it up past what their amp can handle and it clips like crazy. I do not know how people listen to that.
But if you have high quality FLAC or Opus sources (or really high-end analog), you do not have to be an audiophile to tell the difference
The analysis showed that there was no statistically significant difference in quality between the un- compressed signals and AAC-LC 320 kbps compression, which means participants did not perceive difference between two formats
I’ve done a handful of those online “tests” where it’s a 320kbps mp3 and flac or wav clips.
I could almost always tell the difference. The prob was that I would think the mp3 was the higher quality one. In a friends group years ago, another friend of mine had similar results.
A lot of those “tests” also are strategically designed such that the bitrate of the 320mp3 isn’t saturated enough to run into bitrate aliasing. A lot of people, myself included, sometimes lean on flac because we have heard it make a difference, and it’s so shitty that we just go to the higher quality when we want archival quality versions.
Also, if you start introducing eq or other processing for various reasons, when you start magnifying sections of lossy, or even lossless audio, you can start hearing missing data or compression artifacts.
Could be they were both shit lol
I retired from being an “audiophile” when I had 5 drivers stuffed into one earbud. It does sound nice though, especially for gaming.
A good interview with Bob Carver if you like audio history podcast.asknoahshow.com/25
projektilski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Most people DO NOT hear the difference between FLAC and MP3s, which are 320kbs encoded. Most people that claim that do, can’t do it in the blind test.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Anecdotal, but… I’ve been a musician for 36 years and have fantastic hearing not just for my age but for any age. I know, I have to get it quantitatively tested twice a year!
I can’t tell the difference at all between FLAC and 320 kbps from the same source. I can tell a difference between FLAC and 128 kbps, but it’s not huge. It sounds a bit dull, but I have to be looking for the difference and comparing the two. If you just gave me one or the other with no reference, I might suspect the 128 if it was a simple recording of a single instrument or a song I’m intimately familiar with, and even then I wouldn’t be sure of it. It just sometimes “feels” weird.
So I converted over 4 terabytes of my music stash to 320 kbps and cut the total space into less than 2. Feels good.
JordanZ@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Coworker found one of those website tests that does the blind tests of 30 seconds clips. I managed to get the high quality file better than 90%. Just like watching a poorly encoded video and seeing some of the blocky shadows the trick is finding out what audio compression artifacts sound like. Then it’s pretty easy to identify. I’ll also mention what you listen on makes a massive difference. If your collection is mostly for on the go listening it doesn’t need it.
I’m also one of those people with exceptional hearing though. To the point I have to wear earplugs in some daily activities. Like the grocery store is simply too loud for me.
SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
You’re saying you can tell the difference between 320 kbps and FLAC?