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• theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I use it all the time. There are many mature clients, and matrix is a protocol, so I don’t know what you mean. Since the sliding sync implementations, I have found it really nice to use.

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Don’t know what to tell you. I’m literally unable to read messages sent to me, they all show up as “unable to decrypt”. If I can’t even use the damn protocol then how many clients it has doesn’t matter.

    And I have tried different clients.

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    • theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      What server are you using and with which client most recently? It sounds like your device is unverified so untrusted or the key isn’t present.

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      • tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m using the default matrix server and I’ve tried with Element and FluffyChat. I’ve never used a different device to access Matrix. It has always been Firefox through Element, and then when that stopped working I switched to try to use FluffyChat which also did not work.

        To expand, “unable to decrypt” would affect a lot of users. That’s a good thing and exactly what you want it to do when not correctly trusted.

        No, you do not want this affecting every user who has done nothing to change their environment. The device is still trusted, else I wouldn’t be able to sign in and get new messages at all. Here’s a massive list detailing many of the ways this can happen and note that this goes back to 2022. So for 4 years now they’ve had numerous issues with thousands of users being able to decrypt messages sent on the only device they’ve ever used and it still isn’t fixed.

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• Willoughby@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  they

  Your server, not mine, homie. Shop around for a better admin who actually knows how to install the thing.

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    So the Matrix admins don’t know how to actually install the thing then? lol not a good response homie.

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    • Willoughby@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      The overloaded, overbloated main instance?

      No, they don’t. It either shouldn’t exist or should be broken up.

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      • tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        So the devs who created it can’t run an instance and it doesn’t scale properly. Yeah, I’m just gonna go out on a real short limb here and say that maybe the problem isn’t the instance.

        Matrix is terrible any way you slice it.

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• bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Agreed, Matrix works fine as a toy, but it breaks down after a year or two with even.moderate amount of chat.

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  • tyler@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    For me it broke down the second I started using it. I literally am unable to see chats on the only device I’ve ever used to access matrix, they’re all “can’t be decrypted”.

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