Israel has fair elections they chose genocidal prime ministers for 78 years
Do you mind telling the audience what your plan entails for all the Israeli civilians living in Israel, many of whom don’t approve of their government or its actions?
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Israel
doesdid not have fair elections. The ultra-orthodox political elite were extremely privileged in Israel’s elections. Something like 15% of the population was responsible for an 80% share-by-weight of the electoral outcome.This has recently changed, so it’s expected that Israel’s next election (this year) will be more fair, and it’s likely that the ultra-orthodox faction will lose power. However, they know this quite well and are likely to try to use the war in some way to maintain their hold on power. Time will tell.
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If it is not rigged it is fair. Nice deflection from the fact that israelis keep voting for genocidal and pro colonization prime ministers. And since there is a lot of bad actors in lemmy I have to say the obvious, this do not justify killing innocents israeli civilians
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
It is rigged though. You’re the one deflecting.
this do not justify killing innocents israeli civilians
That’s literally what “From the river to the sea means.” If you would just say that, we would be in agreement. But no, you deflect and accuse me of being a zionist because I say “ethnic cleansing is wrong no matter what side is doing it, and simply changing the hands of power between two genocidal organizations is not a viable solution.”
bearboiblake@pawb.social 3 days ago
They would become citizens of the state formed after the dissolution of Israel with the same, full rights and protections, as Palestinians. There would no doubt need to be a whole denazification campaign that might take many years, as well as a very comprehensive period of truth and reconciliation.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
So you’re in favor of a one-state solution?
Who do you think will govern that state?
bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 day ago
I’m just simply stating the simple facts that Israel must be dissolved and everyone who had a hand in the genocide must face justice. The actual process of determining the governance etc. should be determined by those who are going to actually live there.
mrdown@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Israelis and palestinians
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Two-state solution is better. Otherwise you’ll always have a dominant majority marginalizing the other, or at best you would have a political stalemate incapable of getting anything done.