Most people are willing to sell their morals. When nvidia comes crawling back it will be like nothing ever happened.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Someone is going to make bank by catering to consumers. Will the market accept nvidia back with open arms if/when the ai investments fall through?
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
neclimdul@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
As a Linux gamer, nvidia was already on thin ice.
Also I had past them up on recentish purchases since they only really controlled the highest end of the market which I don’t have the budget for. So honestly I have no intention of welcoming them back unless there is literally no other option. You made your bed.
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
This is still a pain point for me. I have been looking for a laptop with an AMD GPU for years to use with Linux, but System76, Starlabs, framework, etc insist on only having Nvidia as a discreet option. Or is it that AMD does not have laptop GPUs? Could be.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
This is not an advertisement, but have you checked laptopwithlinux (dot) com?
They’re based in Europe and I’m pretty sure they offer laptops with AMD GPUs, if integrated ones count. Not sure if it’s the highest end stuff, might not have VRAM, but there are definitely AMD laptop GPUs
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Thanks. I’ll check them out. But I was actually referring to discreet GPUs. I think I’ve never seen an AMD laptop GPU before.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Why do you need a laptop so bad?
jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Because I travel a lot for work. My PC is way less powerful than my current laptop precisely because I spend more time in the road.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That would be nice. But video cards are a VERY niche piece of engineering. The knowledge of HOW to make them is locked in a handful of people, and the ability to make them locked behind a very niche set of equipment that will ALSO be exploding in cost.
One does not simply start a graphics card company.
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I don’t think a newcomer could do it, but a company like Intel is posed to be in a good position. They don’t have much market share but they have a good product.
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The problem with that is Intel is subject to the same bullshit economic assessments as AMD and Nvidia… They’ll just as soon retool for ai as well.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Intel is arguably worse. They‘re in a bad spot right now so they can‘t do crazy things like Nvidia but they totally would and will go down the same path. I don‘t think US designed hardware will ever truly come back to end consumer products.
nforminvasion@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Nothing will. They’re moving us onto techno feudalism. We won’t earn anything and we’ll be wage slaves if they’re merciful to us, otherwise most people will be in camps and dead, unless we stand up real damn soon .
They’re actively moving away from the bottom 90% of consumers, it’s just not worth it anymore and maybe once it was worth advertising to us, but no longer. The top 10% owns 93% of stocks and control at least 55% of the market revenue as of early 2025, probably closer to 60-65% now, after tariffs, layoffs, and the nonexistent recession We’re all imagining and definitely is the real
dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 2 weeks ago
Isn’t China already building their own consumer GPUs?
psvrh@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Intel, here’s your big chance!
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Intel is partly owned by the US government now. You think they want tech going to the people when they themselves want them for skynet.
markz@suppo.fi 2 weeks ago
Maybe, unless it takes so long that everyone already has a chinese card or something
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
I hope they don’t have the production of non-ai chips then.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
I get the disdain for GenAI, but are AI chips really the problem? Maybe they’re more expensive and price people out, but it’s not like they’re built on plagiarism like most generative AI models.
As far as I’m aware, they’re just capable of running highly complex multivariable calculi in parallel, making them more efficient for AI applications, but wouldn’t the same features make them better for more realistic physics and other game mechanics like procedural generation, NPC pathfinding and behaviors, etc.?
I guess it would suck for anyone who doesn’t have the hardware to play a game, but there could always be options to configure in the settings to make it playable, like “don’t use tensor calculus in game physics” or whatever
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Far as i know, GPUs are more specialized on vector calculations. Some upscaling/frame generation techniques use AI hardware but that’s it.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Vectors, tensors, and matrices. Not all AI chips are GPUs though, there are currently NPUs in development and the next generation of consumer chips might have them integrated in the CPU.
They’re not good for deterministic equations, like gravity, collisions, or pathfinding, but they could advance other aspects of games like procedural generations, fluid dynamics, NPC dynamic personalities and emergent behaviors.
Some things are still better left to the CPU or GPU, but offloading some tasks to the NPU might allow for more complexity like simulating full weather systems with Parametric Partial Differential Equations
I’m speculating, of course. But playing a game inside a fully-simulated physics engine seems like it could be cool (despite being resource-intensive in current hardware)
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Well what do most victims of exploitation and abuse do?
giminic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Visiting Stockholm?
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I here it’s nice