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BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

If they’re prisoners, then slave labor is legal under the 13th Amendment. I think that’s the ultimate outcome. Imagine how much more profitable American corporations could be with free labor, like before the Civil War.

We were supposed to be worried about Brown people taking our jobs, but we really have to be worried about Federally-managed slaves taking our jobs instead.

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SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
Yet another thing about the Constitution that needs changing. The state shouldn’t benefit from a prisoner class, otherwise it would be inclined to perpetuate incarceration.

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BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Yep. And if you think they will stop with brown people, Martin Nemoller might have a thing or two to say. Once our elections go full Russia they’ll come door to door for the guns. Every dictator disarms the population. Every dictator has labor camps. Every dictator has death squads. They will have lists of agitators, enemies of the state, and domestic terrorists. Trump has already talked about depopulating the US by 100 million people.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see this comment slid across an interrogation table at me one day.

You don’t give up your gun when they show up and not only will they all get automatic weapon boners until you’re dead, you will be labeled a domestic terrorist and family will be punished. You will be LUCKY if your loved ones simply get chained to a drone factory. Worst case?? Wives and daughters become comfort women.

Please… please… tell me I’m crazy and that this isn’t the North Korea hellscape we’re headed for.

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- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  They are already building Concentration Camps around the country, supposedly to temporarily house the immigrants they want to deport. But what happens to those Camps, and this wealthy, nearly untouchable agency when they’ve accomplished their immigration goals? Is it realistic to think that MAGA would surrender that power? Or will they expand it, and expand their mission?
  
  Ita becoming clear that the ultimate goal is to create a population of slaves, which then can be forced to provide free labor for American corporations under the 13th amendment, boosting the economy and their profits, making their stock prices increase for those Sociopathic Oligarchs whose money is tied up in stock. Bringing back slavery is their ultimate goal, and the 13th Amendment gives that to them. They just need prisoners, and pretty soon, EVERYTHING will be illegal, and EVERYBODY is a potential criminal, and this, a potential slave.
  
  Trump has already talked about depopulating the US by 100 million people.
  
  I’m pleased to see this, not a lot of people know about this, but he was actually saying that he had been speaking with Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller, and it was Peewee Himmler who said we should reduce the population 100 million people, and that they should look like him (God forbid). That would be about a 70% reduction in population from the current 335 million. It would be interesting to here how PeeWee Himmler plans to accomplish that.
  
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  - BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I think before this is nightmare is over we will be measuring death tolls in multiples of the Holocaust. It really is time to leave if you can. The midterm elections will be the fulcrum point. In November they will know if they ever have to worry any meeting voted out again.
    
    It’s literally the fucking Confederacy. The civil war never ended for them. They hid in plain sight for a century and a half. How many people know that the “GOP” stands for “Grand Old Party”? They stopped calling themselves Republicans 30 years ago. We all think this coup is a sudden thing. Yeah… the frogs are just now feeling the water get hot.
    
    The next step is punishment. Plane and simple.
    
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    BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I think you are 100% right on every count, especially about the Midterms being the “fulcrum point.” Whatever happens in November, America will change greatly as a result, and it’s future path will be set. If Democrats win, it will be the start of taking our country back, and crushing and purging MAGA from our government and our society. The American people will accept nothing less from our Democratic losers, I mean “leaders.”
    
    But if MAGA prevails, the future of America is going to be a giant prison slave labor force managed by a Trump corporation.
    
    I’m getting old, and I have come around to the idea that my life may have a twist ending it wasn’t expecting. In fact, I have come to believe that dying in my sleep as an old man would be a waste. If America goes full MAGA, and Democracy ends, I will not be cooperative.
    
    I’m not going down in a blaze of glory, however. I have people very close to me that I love more than life, and they are members of very vulnerable groups that MAGA hates, and will eventually be on their hit lists. If ANYTHING were to happen to any of them, I’m going to become a very dangerous person indeed.
    
    Again, I won’t go down in a blaze of glory, I will be much more cautious and surgical about it. Revenge is a dish best served cold.
    
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GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Finally someone mentions the fucking loophole in the 13th Amendment. Slavery is still legal in the US. It’s just illegal when anyone other than the prison-industrial complex does it.

buycott.com/…/boycott-companies-that-use-prison-l…

CostCo, John Deere, and AT&T are all on this list.

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- SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
  CostCo does? That sucks!
  
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- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yep, Trump and Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller are going into the slavery business.
  
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SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Wow…you guys always come back to this Constitution that government completely ignores.

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- BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  That’s right, because THAT’S the LAW. We don’t throw it out because the bad guys won’t follow it, because that’s STUPID.
  
  Does your country throw out the law because there are criminals who refuse to follow it? Do you just say “What’s the point of having laws, if a few won’t follow them? I guess the solution is to have NO LAW AT ALL?” Of course not. You FORCE the law breakers to follow the law, OR ELSE.
  
  That’s what we want, for MAGA to follow the Constitution like every other administration for the last 250 years. And if they won’t, we’ll FORCE them to.
  
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  - SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago
    Personally, I think the Constitution as we know it is starting to resemble the Articles of Confederation: not fit for purpose.
    
    It WAS an useful document, but we don’t have enough people upholding it, and the overall design of the thing is filled with poison pills to democracy. The 13th Amendment’s slave labor exception, electoral college, the lack of ranked-choice voting, not considering one’s body and devices to be ‘effects’ for warrant purposes, and so forth.
    
    That is one of the reasons why I favor preparations for a civil war, because a true successor to America would need a fresh document to light the path towards a better future. It would be a painful thing, but I don’t think we have the luxury of a peaceful reformation anymore.
    
    Of course, I would like to be wrong. But it ain’t prudent to believe that the Donorcrats and Turdpublicans would have a revelation and fix themselves.
    
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