US South has had slave labor camps defined as prisons for 100 years. Angola farm.
BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think the real answer is worse. ICE is creating labor camps. Slavery.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Pretty sure the Nazis didn’t kill most of their prisoners until people started noticing the slave camps. So that checks out.
Matombo@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
yes and no: part of the nazi plan was to kill the people by overworking them
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
RFK said that autistic people like me shouldn’t exist, and are useless to society. It was his announcement about making ‘wellness’ camps for my kind, that made me lock into resisting. I don’t want to die a freedom fighter, but the alternative is to die as a slave or to be slaughtered for merely existing.
BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“…and then they came for me…”
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
If they’re prisoners, then slave labor is legal under the 13th Amendment. I think that’s the ultimate outcome. Imagine how much more profitable American corporations could be with free labor, like before the Civil War.
We were supposed to be worried about Brown people taking our jobs, but we really have to be worried about Federally-managed slaves taking our jobs instead.
BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yep. And if you think they will stop with brown people, Martin Nemoller might have a thing or two to say. Once our elections go full Russia they’ll come door to door for the guns. Every dictator disarms the population. Every dictator has labor camps. Every dictator has death squads. They will have lists of agitators, enemies of the state, and domestic terrorists. Trump has already talked about depopulating the US by 100 million people.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see this comment slid across an interrogation table at me one day.
You don’t give up your gun when they show up and not only will they all get automatic weapon boners until you’re dead, you will be labeled a domestic terrorist and family will be punished. You will be LUCKY if your loved ones simply get chained to a drone factory. Worst case?? Wives and daughters become comfort women.
Please… please… tell me I’m crazy and that this isn’t the North Korea hellscape we’re headed for.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
They are already building Concentration Camps around the country, supposedly to temporarily house the immigrants they want to deport. But what happens to those Camps, and this wealthy, nearly untouchable agency when they’ve accomplished their immigration goals? Is it realistic to think that MAGA would surrender that power? Or will they expand it, and expand their mission?
Ita becoming clear that the ultimate goal is to create a population of slaves, which then can be forced to provide free labor for American corporations under the 13th amendment, boosting the economy and their profits, making their stock prices increase for those Sociopathic Oligarchs whose money is tied up in stock. Bringing back slavery is their ultimate goal, and the 13th Amendment gives that to them. They just need prisoners, and pretty soon, EVERYTHING will be illegal, and EVERYBODY is a potential criminal, and this, a potential slave.
I’m pleased to see this, not a lot of people know about this, but he was actually saying that he had been speaking with Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller, and it was Peewee Himmler who said we should reduce the population 100 million people, and that they should look like him (God forbid). That would be about a 70% reduction in population from the current 335 million. It would be interesting to here how PeeWee Himmler plans to accomplish that.
BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think before this is nightmare is over we will be measuring death tolls in multiples of the Holocaust. It really is time to leave if you can. The midterm elections will be the fulcrum point. In November they will know if they ever have to worry any meeting voted out again.
It’s literally the fucking Confederacy. The civil war never ended for them. They hid in plain sight for a century and a half. How many people know that the “GOP” stands for “Grand Old Party”? They stopped calling themselves Republicans 30 years ago. We all think this coup is a sudden thing. Yeah… the frogs are just now feeling the water get hot.
The next step is punishment. Plane and simple.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Finally someone mentions the fucking loophole in the 13th Amendment. Slavery is still legal in the US. It’s just illegal when anyone other than the prison-industrial complex does it.
buycott.com/…/boycott-companies-that-use-prison-l…
CostCo, John Deere, and AT&T are all on this list.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Yep, Trump and Stephen “PeeWee Himmler” Miller are going into the slavery business.
GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Add it to the list of reasons I’m disgusted with my country, and disgusted with myself for ever being proud of it.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
CostCo does? That sucks!
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yet another thing about the Constitution that needs changing. The state shouldn’t benefit from a prisoner class, otherwise it would be inclined to perpetuate incarceration.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Yeah the 13th Amendment is easily the biggest problem in the Constitution. Everybody has pretty much ignored it, because it hasn’t become much of an issue outside the prison world, but it is becoming apparent that MAGA intends to exploit the shit out of that monstrous loophole.
“Perpetuate incarceration?” These psychopaths are going to monetize incarceration, and literally revive the American Slave Economy.
Their dream is an entire national workforce that is 90% AI, robotics, or Federally-supplied slave labor (managed by a private, Trump-owned corporation). Imagine how much more profitable corporations could be under such a system? Imagine how much wealthier they could get if labor was nearly free (although they’ll still complain about costs, and demand government bail-outs, tax breaks, etc)? There is no possibility that the craven psychopaths can resist the lure of such riches. They have been moving toward this objective for decades, and now it within reach.
Of course, there will be a devastating Depression as millions PERMANENTLY lose their jobs (it won’t bother the wealthy, they fly above all that), and with unemployment and homelessness deemed illegal, they will go straight to the work camps. Need government assistance to feed your family, now that you are permanently unemployed? All assistance recipients have to work off their debt to the government by residing in the work camps, where you will be leased out to a corporation to do whatever they tell you to do. You are a slave.
Once this slave-based economy is established, it will be impossible to turn it back, without crashing the economy AGAIN, launching another devastating Depression like the one that hit the South following the end of slavery.
And as an epilogue: What do you think will happen to the most recalcitrant of resistors, who refuse to cooperate with a slavery-backed economy and government? If you can’t work, or won’t work, you are an enemy of the state, and you will be eliminated, along with anyone close to you that you may have influenced. After a while, resistance evaporates.
And that how we become North Korea.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Wow…you guys always come back to this Constitution that government completely ignores.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
That’s right, because THAT’S the LAW. We don’t throw it out because the bad guys won’t follow it, because that’s STUPID.
Does your country throw out the law because there are criminals who refuse to follow it? Do you just say “What’s the point of having laws, if a few won’t follow them? I guess the solution is to have NO LAW AT ALL?” Of course not. You FORCE the law breakers to follow the law, OR ELSE.
That’s what we want, for MAGA to follow the Constitution like every other administration for the last 250 years. And if they won’t, we’ll FORCE them to.
SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Personally, I think the Constitution as we know it is starting to resemble the Articles of Confederation: not fit for purpose.
It WAS an useful document, but we don’t have enough people upholding it, and the overall design of the thing is filled with poison pills to democracy. The 13th Amendment’s slave labor exception, electoral college, the lack of ranked-choice voting, not considering one’s body and devices to be ‘effects’ for warrant purposes, and so forth.
That is one of the reasons why I favor preparations for a civil war, because a true successor to America would need a fresh document to light the path towards a better future. It would be a painful thing, but I don’t think we have the luxury of a peaceful reformation anymore.
Of course, I would like to be wrong. But it ain’t prudent to believe that the Donorcrats and Turdpublicans would have a revelation and fix themselves.