Comment on European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Microsoft Teams

• bridgeburner@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Interesting. My company uses Matrix Element as well and it works great.

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• Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I do think the EU should start with a more basic app like FluffyChat in testing but rebranded, then try to make their own app over the Matrix protocol that fits their specific communications needs and share that development publicly with open source.

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  • Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    German military uses matrix with their own messenger.

    play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bwi.bwme…

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    • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh perfect. That would be a good upstream base for other European govt projects.

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  • KiwiTB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Didn’t XMPP already solve these issues a long time ago?

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    • arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The biggest problem with XMPP is what various servers and clients implement is kind of all over the place. For instance, most clients support an older version of OMEMO, but some clients support newer versions, and the different versions are incompatible.

      The other issue is some platforms (iOS in particular) have pretty shitty XMPP apps filled with bugs.

      I still generally like XMPP more than Matrix since ATM Matrix clients are also filled with bugs/laggy, Synapse (the main server implementation) is very resource heavy, and message syncing is kind of shit if the client doesn’t implement sliding sync (like FluffyChat). I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn’t great for convincing non-techy people to use them.

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      • apftwb@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn’t great for convincing non-techy people to use them.

        Ding ding ding. Make a Discord/Slack clone that does screensharing and drag/drop file sharing and I won’t care if it uses XMPP or Matrix

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      • ada@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I mean, matrix is similar. So many official features aren’t supported by various clients, and then there are non official features that the clients do support, that aren’t supported by the official clients.
        
        But matrix or XMPP, that problem is easily enough avoided at the “government rollout” level by standardising on a particular client and server combination

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    • ohnomorelemmy@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is a case where federation is nice. 

      It’s good to have an easy model for communication between members of different trusted organizations without requiring everyone to create a new account on a different server.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        XMPP is federated

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  • JonnyRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Any matrix client available for both android and ios with video conference capabilities? … that might have sounded a bit too aggressive. My question is genuine. Family members needs.

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    • nao@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Have not tried it, but supposedly Element X does support that

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah. Compared to Teams, Matrix is fine. It’s just far from a powerful tool built by people who actually give a shit.

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• Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Rocket.Chat seems to be doing well in Europe as well; they recently released their own native matrix implementation.

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• KiwiTB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’ve heard element, the common server software and even the protocol itself are also simply meh as well … That’s not a great start… And the name alone is a huge problem for adoption

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Element the server suite is fine - it’s just a version of Synapse with rust and Python bindings.

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