Comment on European Commission Trials Matrix to Replace Microsoft Teams

KiwiTB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Matrix is good. Element is not. It is a terrible application filled with bugs that ends up limiting the quality of other client applications.

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  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I do think the EU should start with a more basic app like FluffyChat in testing but rebranded, then try to make their own app over the Matrix protocol that fits their specific communications needs and share that development publicly with open source.

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    • KiwiTB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Didn’t XMPP already solve these issues a long time ago?

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      • arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The biggest problem with XMPP is what various servers and clients implement is kind of all over the place. For instance, most clients support an older version of OMEMO, but some clients support newer versions, and the different versions are incompatible.

        The other issue is some platforms (iOS in particular) have pretty shitty XMPP apps filled with bugs.

        I still generally like XMPP more than Matrix since ATM Matrix clients are also filled with bugs/laggy, Synapse (the main server implementation) is very resource heavy, and message syncing is kind of shit if the client doesn’t implement sliding sync (like FluffyChat). I personally think the UI for both XMPP and Matrix clients generally kind of suck, which isn’t great for convincing non-techy people to use them.

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      • ohnomorelemmy@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is a case where federation is nice. 

        It’s good to have an easy model for communication between members of different trusted organizations without requiring everyone to create a new account on a different server.

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    • Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      German military uses matrix with their own messenger.

      play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.bwi.bwme…

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      • Rentlar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh perfect. That would be a good upstream base for other European govt projects.

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    • JonnyRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Any matrix client available for both android and ios with video conference capabilities? … that might have sounded a bit too aggressive. My question is genuine. Family members needs.

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      • nao@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Have not tried it, but supposedly Element X does support that

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah. Compared to Teams, Matrix is fine. It’s just far from a powerful tool built by people who actually give a shit.

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  • bridgeburner@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Interesting. My company uses Matrix Element as well and it works great.

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  • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Rocket.Chat seems to be doing well in Europe as well; they recently released their own native matrix implementation.

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  • KiwiTB@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve heard element, the common server software and even the protocol itself are also simply meh as well … That’s not a great start… And the name alone is a huge problem for adoption

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Element the server suite is fine - it’s just a version of Synapse with rust and Python bindings.

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• melfie@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hopefully the intention is to contribute and help make it into something that can serve large organizations reliably.

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